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Ferrari F2005 makes its track debut
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 6:20 am
by Ed
The Ferrari F2005 took to the track for the first time at Mugello.
Test driver Luca Badoer drove the new car for 61 laps with a best time of 1:22.210.
Fastest time at Mugello in 2004 was 1:18.704 set by Rubens Barrichello ...
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Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 7:10 am
by sgd
Nice! 3.5sec... seems as just didn't make it "out of the box" like the F2004... let see how much time it take them to put it at least 3.5s faster...

(hope more than 2 weeks!

)
note:Renault and Mclaren times in barcelona fell ~2.5s (05 spec) in winter tests...
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 8:23 am
by JayVee
Being the optimist that I am this is GR8T news
But it was pretty cold so lets wait a few days before we start celebrating.
Where is FerrariFan hiding ?
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 12:59 pm
by Julian Mayo
Cold! it was bloody freezing, he did 61 shakedown laps, and some of those were on the short circuit. The ides of march loom close I say to ye

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 4:11 pm
by Graham Ross
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 7:32 pm
by Julian Mayo
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 7:44 pm
by Graham Ross
bloody cold I reckon
don't they have warmers under their seat ? they must have, at least at Sauber

JV tested with snow at the track at Imola didn't he

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 8:32 pm
by Julian Mayo
Yeah,he had bundles of bat money under his suit to keep him warm

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 10:03 pm
by sgd
"Melbourne (GMM) Ferrari broke an F1 test agreement on Tuesday, by amassing more than 50km of 'shakedown' mileage in GP week.
Debuting the new 'F2005' model at freezing Mugello (Italy), Luca Badoer completed 317km -- 267 more than allowed."
Now tell me that ferrari does not CHEAT!!??
ferrari = cheaters = losers!!!
win championships with cheat = to be a f***** loser!!
anybody disagree??

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 10:24 pm
by Ed
sgd,
I am not taking sides here. My position doesn't allow me but I must point out that as far a I am aware, the 'shakedown' regulation is for cars that will race on the weekend and the F2005 won't be racing this weekend and hence they can test.
Second, Ferrari did not sign the agreement limiting testing during the season. All the other 9 teams did.
Fair or not, that is a matter of opinion and you have certainly expressed yours.
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 11:37 pm
by sgd
Ok... let see:
I read that here:
http://www.f1central.net/news/article/1 ... /view.html
and contacted them (f1central.net) with the next questions:
1.Isn't this the agreement limiting testing that ferrari did no sign for this year?
2.isn't the 'shakedown' regulation for cars that will race on the weekend?
and their answer:
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Dear Sgd,
Thankyou for your email.
There has been an agreement for many years that teams would not test, other than shakedowns, in the week leading up to any grand prix. Without consulting the author I assume this is what they were referring to but I can get you more information.
Kind regards,
Webmaster [UpdateSport]
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I'll ask for more info...
What do you think?

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 12:00 am
by Ed
sgd,
This article doesn't provide any evidence on such an agreement.
If they did break a rule, the FIA would investigate and other teams would complain. Neither has happened.
Reviewing the 2004 and 2005 regulations under testing, nothing is mentioned regarding a ban on testing.
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 12:18 am
by sgd
Ok...
I've requested more info, a soon as they give me something I'll be posting here...
in the other hand, if it's an agreement in doesn't have to be in the 2005 FIA regulations... and FIA wouldn't had to investigate anything, I thought it was an agreement as that they (all-ferrari) signed for limiting testing during this season (which ferreri certainly did not sign), but an old one which ferrari did sign...
anyway.. complains to
http://www.f1central.net/ redaction...

...
if they don't give documented argumentation...

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 12:45 am
by Ed
Well the 2001 Sporting regulations stated:
TESTING
65) No testing is permitted :
...
b) on any circuit during the seven days preceding and the day following race day at each Event except for a shakedown test not exceeding 50km which must be supervised by the relevant ASN ;...
But from 2002 onwards, that clause is no longer there
And to support this, there was press release by the FIA on October 3, 2001 part of which stated:
FORMULA ONE
2002 SPORTING REGULATIONS
radio signals may now pass bi-directionally between cars and pits;
the FIA will no longer limit the amount of testing teams carry out.
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 12:50 am
by sgd
Ed wrote:FORMULA ONE
2002 SPORTING REGULATIONS
radio signals may now pass bi-directionally between cars and pits;
the FIA will no longer limit the amount of testing teams carry out.
Well... but in f1central.net they talk about an agreement...not a FIA rule...
