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FIA
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 6:05 am
by Swanny
I am fed up with the FIA being such idiots, they really are ruining F1.
Never thought I would say this but
The sooner the breakaway formula the better for me

Re: FIA
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 6:16 am
by Julian Mayo
Swanny wrote:I am fed up with the FIA being such idiots, they really are ruining F1.
Never thought I would say this but
The sooner the breakaway formula the better for me

It may be that todays events were just what the manufacturers wanted

Re: FIA
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 5:45 pm
by polo2028
Swanny wrote:I am fed up with the FIA being such idiots, they really are ruining F1.
Never thought I would say this but
The sooner the breakaway formula the better for me

Formula One Championship should not be under FIA - dumb idiots!
Re: FIA
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 5:48 pm
by Julian Mayo
polo2028 wrote:Swanny wrote:I am fed up with the FIA being such idiots, they really are ruining F1.
Never thought I would say this but
The sooner the breakaway formula the better for me

Formula One Championship should not be under FIA - dumb idiots!
Anybody got an email address for Moseley/ FIA?
Re: FIA
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 5:54 pm
by polo2028
julian mayo wrote:polo2028 wrote:Swanny wrote:I am fed up with the FIA being such idiots, they really are ruining F1.
Never thought I would say this but
The sooner the breakaway formula the better for me

Formula One Championship should not be under FIA - dumb idiots!
Anybody got an email address for Moseley/ FIA?
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Re: FIA
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 5:54 pm
by Ed
julian mayo wrote:
Anybody got an email address for Moseley/ FIA?
The FIA contacts are available on their contact page (
http://www.fia.com/global/contacts.html)
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 6:03 pm
by Julian Mayo
has anybody got an EMAIL address for Moseley /FIA?
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 6:07 pm
by Ed
julian mayo wrote:has anybody got an EMAIL address for Moseley /FIA?
No not a published one for Mosley but that page has an admin contact email. That is the only one they offer
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 11:58 pm
by F1greyhound
The GPWC(which wont happen..) would face the same problems.
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 12:04 am
by rah
F1greyhound wrote:The GPWC(which wont happen..) would face the same problems.
Nah, mate. It would probably have a lot more problems.
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 6:43 am
by Julian Mayo
rah wrote:F1greyhound wrote:The GPWC(which wont happen..) would face the same problems.
Nah, mate. It would probably have a lot more problems.
and without Moseley and co., could probably fix them

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 2:27 pm
by Graham Ross
F1greyhound wrote:The GPWC(which wont happen..) would face the same problems.
How can you be so sure ?
Currently the revenue isn't ditributed evenly and that is creating the most friction.
Factual or not, the FIA as well as Bernie are seen to favour Ferrari
The rules and regulations are ambigious to say the least and the FIA seems to want to keep it that way so they can interpret each case on who the guilty party is. BAR Honda were treated harshly this year, Williams and Toyota were disqualified in Canada yet Ferrari get away with errors (more tyres allocated, stewards late in imposing penalty!!, wrong way of measurement)
The constant fiddling with the rules
The lack of an independent appeals court
If the GPWC addresses those issues (especially the financial side), I don't see why they would have the same or more problems.
Bottom line, Max Mosley and Bernie Ecclestone are past their use by date IMO and as they insist on controlling the sport in dictatorship fashion, a split will happen.
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 4:04 pm
by Kapel
I agree Graham that Money is the cause of friction here.
I believe Bernie has offered more money to other teams from 2008(how much i dont know)
I think apart from money,the teams should negotiate in terms of rules(N then comply to them for atleast 5 yrs), Max Mosely drowned in the Atlantic ocean(not in the Indian ocean please,i dont want him here

) , number of races(time frame) N in an event like in US,FIA has no say ,only teams decision should count.(Teams to be consulted on every critical issues.)

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 4:23 pm
by Julian Mayo
Kapel wrote:I agree Graham that Money is the cause of friction here.
I believe Bernie has offered more money to other teams from 2008(how much i dont know)
I think apart from money,the teams should negotiate in terms of rules(N then comply to them for atleast 5 yrs), Max Mosely drowned in the Atlantic ocean(not in the Indian ocean please,i dont want him here

) , number of races(time frame) N in an event like in US,FIA has no say ,only teams decision should count.(Teams to be consulted on every critical issues.)

I doubt that you would ever get concensus from the team managers, Kappy

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 3:31 am
by polo2028
Graham Ross wrote:F1greyhound wrote:The GPWC(which wont happen..) would face the same problems.
How can you be so sure ?
Currently the revenue isn't ditributed evenly and that is creating the most friction.
Factual or not, the FIA as well as Bernie are seen to favour Ferrari
The rules and regulations are ambigious to say the least and the FIA seems to want to keep it that way so they can interpret each case on who the guilty party is. BAR Honda were treated harshly this year, Williams and Toyota were disqualified in Canada yet
Ferrari get away with errors (more tyres allocated, stewards late in imposing penalty!!, wrong way of measurement)
The constant fiddling with the rules
The lack of an independent appeals court
If the GPWC addresses those issues (especially the financial side), I don't see why they would have the same or more problems.
Bottom line, Max Mosley and Bernie Ecclestone are past their use by date IMO and as they insist on controlling the sport in dictatorship fashion, a split will happen.
It would be much better for the races under GPWC than under FIA.