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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:05 am
by RE30B#16
JayVee wrote:Luck played a big part, good to see Wurz up there but really Rosberg has been the better of the two.
To be fair, Alexander Wurz has been hit by someone at the start of virtually every race this year! He is a phenomenal racer, and anyone who follows sports prototype racing knows this. He is the closest thing to Jacky Ickx around these days. He can race sports cars or Formula 1 cars very well, and is always competitive. He has a great racing mind and is a setup master. I have read his setup ideas have helped Nico Rosberg a lot this year. Last year, Williams was adrift in the setup department.

:drive:

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:09 am
by RE30B#16
Snowy wrote:I would also like to say while it is fresh in my mind and without any malice intended. It is just an observation :roll: That Fernando outbraked himself
:lol:

I love this remark, Snowy!!!

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:18 am
by RE30B#16
gkaytaz wrote:Yeah, he overshot turn one three times... I find it hard to believe that Alonso would repeatedly do such mistakes. Especially without major pressure on him. Nick was not really much of a problem for Hamilton's McLaren. One would think Alonso could have taken him on a one-on-one as well. Then again I cannot help but remember Sato's relatively easy attack on Alonso. Something was off with Alonso yesterday.
The Circuit de Gilles Villeneuve requires somewhat of a compromise race set up. Too much wing, and you are too slow in the fast parts. Too little wing, and the car is undrivable in the twisties. I have read interviews with drivers who said the thing at Canada is to try to set up the car so that it is good at the end of the race, and that if your car handles well at the beginning of a race there, it will probably be undrivable by the end.

With all of those "offs" and drama, I would be surprised if Alonso's car drove like Shyz by the end of the race.

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:23 am
by Ed
Kubica has been released from hospital and he may well drive at Indy this weekend! That decision will be made on Thursday!

Full BMW Sauber statement

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:28 am
by Snowy
RE30B#16 wrote:
Snowy wrote:I would also like to say while it is fresh in my mind and without any malice intended. It is just an observation :roll: That Fernando outbraked himself
:lol:

I love this remark, Snowy!!!
I have to add a disclaimer to everything I say because I am very sensitive and hate being flamed for saying things that people shouldn't but often can and do find offensive :?
That wasn't meant to upset anyone by the way 8)

I can see how some might think the emoticon I used there could be construed as inflamatory I apologise for any inaccuracies implied by such an emotive emoticon :lol:
oops done it again :shock:

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:34 am
by Ed
gkaytaz wrote:By the way Ed, do you ever vote for the DotD? I wonder what you think about the Canadian GP. You always ask for our opinion, let's hear yours :)
We don't vote as not to influence the results.

But I can tell you that Hamilton, Heidfeld, Wurz, Kovalainen and Sato all impressed. Rosberg impressed as well.
As this was Hamilton's first win, I'd give it to him.

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:44 am
by RE30B#16
Snowy wrote:
RE30B#16 wrote:
Snowy wrote:I would also like to say while it is fresh in my mind and without any malice intended. It is just an observation :roll: That Fernando outbraked himself
:lol:

I love this remark, Snowy!!!
I have to add a disclaimer to everything I say because I am very sensitive and hate being flamed for saying things that people shouldn't but often can and do find offensive :?
That wasn't meant to upset anyone by the way 8)

I can see how some might think the emoticon I used there could be construed as inflamatory I apologise for any inaccuracies implied by such an emotive emoticon :lol:
oops done it again :shock:
I wasn't upset or offended. I thought it was a great way to say Alonso screwed up by creating the image of Alonso racing himself and late braking both "selfs" into the sand trap!

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 7:12 am
by Jim Watt
:D :D

Jay Vee asked "Where is Jim Watt?"

I was [WAS] in the Maine woods with Robert Bly and friends. No Kidding. I go every year to the conference of the Great Mother and New Father led by the American poet, Robert Bly. It is always in the first week of June and always at a remote location. Some people bring their cell phones (which don't work very well usually) and some bring computers to check on their email.

I don't bring anything but mosquito repellent, beer, a sleeping bag and pen & pencil.

So I suspected that the race would be a good one.

My wife didn't tape the race because it wasn't on the usual [Speed] network. I think it was on Fox or something. So. If anyone knows how I can see the race or race highlights on line, I'd appreciate it!!

Congrats to Lewis (& Snowy, too, who must be now in heaven).

But, believe it or not, I rather like the developing Kimi Raikonnen story. It is hard to judge character when a person is winning. I always loved Michael more when he was struggling than when winning. So now I get to root for BOTH Kimi AND Fernando! :woohoo:

During Practices and Qualys this week, I'll be hanging around (wearing Ferrari gear, of course!) in the Indianapolis Infield on the slight rise where the cars come out of the little curves that follow Turn One and head into the switchbacks that slow them before they swing onto the South Short Chute into the Main Straight. That's where the cars sound and look the best. And where you can really compare driver's styles.

I don't know where I'll be for the race because I haven't bought me ticket yet. I'll probably do that on race morning. Here at Indy you can now usually pay less than face value for a ticket from a scalper an hour or so before the start.

A lot of potential fans were turned off by the Michelin fiasco of '05 and have never come back. Americans, to their credit or not, don't much care for elite types. The NASCAR people make sure their drivers are not only well known by the fans, but accessible to them as well. And everyone, from tyre-changer to team manager to officials and sanctioning agents, does all he can to insure a "good show" for the fans. NASCAR would NEVER have allowed a race to go forward in which three quarters of the teams withdrew. Any team withdrawing would have been withdrawing FOR GOOD. It hardly matters whose fault it was. What F1 showed that day was how little it cares for us fans. It's only because I love the heritage and I love the devotion of people like Frank Williams and (shudder, am I really saying this?!) Ron Dennis and Jean Todt and Fernando and Lewis and Kimi, that I continue to follow the sport. But each night I say a little prayer for someone to come and rescue F1. I even think I might know who that might be. Ah. But that's another post.

In fact, I expect Tony George will let the F1 race die at his venue. There may still be an American G.P., but it will be elsewhere. From Tony's point of view, it makes perfect sense: F1 costs him too much (Bernie is insatiable, as you well know); he has too little control over what happens, and he has two other races that are WAY bigger in terms of money and satisfied fans. Some friends have said he is courting the moto gp people. I think the Indy course would be way cool to watch the bikes on!

Anyway, for about the third or fourth time in my life, F1 is sputtering in the U.S. Indeed open wheel racing is only slowly coming back from the war between IRL and Champ Cars. Some times I almost wish it was like it was when I was a boy. A driver from my little town in So. Oregon, Bob Christie, got himself an offie (that's Offenhauser) and put it on a trailer and hauled the car out to Indy and qualified. I don't know how high he ever placed, but he wasn't the only little guy to race in the famous 500. Now, if you don't have millions of dollars and a consortium of sponsors...

Ah, but what has happened to open-wheel racing in the U.S. is ALMOST as strange as what has happened to it in Europe. Still, at least you'll always have Silverstone and Spa 8)

Sorry this posting turned into the boring musings of some pathetic old geezer over in the corner of the pub, falling asleep over his third guiness and muttering to himself: "Jeez. I don't think I wanna know where my ranking is now. I must be way down in the Five Hundreds!"

Ah well, Cheers race fans

--and thanks for the inquiry Jay Vee.

Jim Watt

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:58 am
by jacfan
RE30B#16 wrote:
Snowy wrote:
RE30B#16 wrote:
:lol:

I love this remark, Snowy!!!
I have to add a disclaimer to everything I say because I am very sensitive and hate being flamed for saying things that people shouldn't but often can and do find offensive :?
That wasn't meant to upset anyone by the way 8)

I can see how some might think the emoticon I used there could be construed as inflamatory I apologise for any inaccuracies implied by such an emotive emoticon :lol:
oops done it again :shock:
I wasn't upset or offended. I thought it was a great way to say Alonso screwed up by creating the image of Alonso racing himself and late braking both "selfs" into the sand trap!
RE, Snowy was not directing this at you, 'twas me and if you read the section on motogp you will know why.

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:12 pm
by JayVee
Jim Watt wrote::D :D

Jay Vee asked "Where is Jim Watt?"

I was [WAS] in the Maine woods with Robert Bly and friends. No Kidding. I go every year to the conference of the Great Mother and New Father led by the American poet, Robert Bly. It is always in the first week of June and always at a remote location. Some people bring their cell phones (which don't work very well usually) and some bring computers to check on their email.

I don't bring anything but mosquito repellent, beer, a sleeping bag and pen & pencil.

So I suspected that the race would be a good one.

My wife didn't tape the race because it wasn't on the usual [Speed] network. I think it was on Fox or something. So. If anyone knows how I can see the race or race highlights on line, I'd appreciate it!!

Congrats to Lewis (& Snowy, too, who must be now in heaven).

But, believe it or not, I rather like the developing Kimi Raikonnen story. It is hard to judge character when a person is winning. I always loved Michael more when he was struggling than when winning. So now I get to root for BOTH Kimi AND Fernando! :woohoo:


--and thanks for the inquiry Jay Vee.

Jim Watt
Pity you didn't watch the race, of the first 6 races this was the one!!

I am really looking forward to Fernando the fighter as he hunts Hamilton and as he gets more used to those slippery bridgestones :D

Even though I think Alonso will struggle in Indy, I'll be picking him for 1st!!

Enjoy Indy, we'll be looking for you in the crowds :wink:

PS. You can find a bit about Bob Christie on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Christie :wink: )

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:15 pm
by JayVee
jacfan wrote:
RE30B#16 wrote:
Snowy wrote:
I have to add a disclaimer to everything I say because I am very sensitive and hate being flamed for saying things that people shouldn't but often can and do find offensive :?
That wasn't meant to upset anyone by the way 8)

I can see how some might think the emoticon I used there could be construed as inflamatory I apologise for any inaccuracies implied by such an emotive emoticon :lol:
oops done it again :shock:
I wasn't upset or offended. I thought it was a great way to say Alonso screwed up by creating the image of Alonso racing himself and late braking both "selfs" into the sand trap!
RE, Snowy was not directing this at you, 'twas me and if you read the section on motogp you will know why.
And I thought 'twas me :D :D

But unlike some others I don't get upset :shock: :shock: And unlike some others I congratulate the winner even if the Cute didn't do too well. (of course Michael was an exception)

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 7:52 pm
by Snowy
jacfan wrote:
RE30B#16 wrote:
Snowy wrote:
I have to add a disclaimer to everything I say because I am very sensitive and hate being flamed for saying things that people shouldn't but often can and do find offensive :?
That wasn't meant to upset anyone by the way 8)

I can see how some might think the emoticon I used there could be construed as inflamatory I apologise for any inaccuracies implied by such an emotive emoticon :lol:
oops done it again :shock:
I wasn't upset or offended. I thought it was a great way to say Alonso screwed up by creating the image of Alonso racing himself and late braking both "selfs" into the sand trap!
RE, Snowy was not directing this at you, 'twas me and if you read the section on motogp you will know why.
No no please! I wasn't directing it at you Jacfan everyone takes offense at what I say honestly! :shock: I don't mean to be offensive, I actually go out of my way to appear benign and cuddly but I guess I just am offensive. Can't you tell how much effort I put into not being irritating? I could overwhelm this thread and the entire forum with my admiration for Lewis Hamilton but I like to believe I have tempered those urges and discussed other things. Damn! :o and then I go and spoil it all by saying I lo' . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:46 pm
by jacfan
In future years I am sure we will be singing the praises of your love child. Must admit he is impressive. :up:

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:24 am
by Snowy
jacfan wrote:In future years I am sure we will be singing the praises of your love child. Must admit he is impressive. :up:
It was all Ron's hard work I just provided the sperm! :lol:

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:26 pm
by jacfan
Snowy wrote:
jacfan wrote:In future years I am sure we will be singing the praises of your love child. Must admit he is impressive. :up:
It was all Ron's hard work I just provided the sperm! :lol:
:oops: