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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:58 am
by Woogle
Graham Ross wrote:The best info I managed to find is on this site
http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_1678795,00.html
The fire fighting plane (Canadair MI-DPCK) hit power lines it appears and crashed into a house. Both pilots Stefano Bandini and Claudio Rosseti were killed. Both have recently come back from Sri Lanka helping in the tsunami aid effort.
Canadair was Canada's leading aircraft manufacturer until 1986 when Bombardier acquired it. They did all sorts of aircraft (from Canadair history site -
http://home.ca.inter.net/~rapickler/)
Thank You.
We can now all understand Jarno's loss as well as the families of these fine people.
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:00 pm
by sgd
JayVee wrote:
Rubens 10th nearly 1.5 seconds slower
I wonder what Michael's best time was
What a few months make!!
1.Kimi R?ikk?nen 1:35.483
....
9 David Coulthard 1:36.790
10 Rubens Barrichello 1:36.878
11 Christian Klien 1:36.902
12 Michael Schumacher 1:36.982
RedBull vs ferrari, in Bahrein will be hot!!!
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:04 pm
by JayVee
Thanks sgd,
It is amazing how slow the Ferraris were. I suspect though Michael had some sort of problem. His rear wing was getting darker all the time from oil or something.
This week, it will be interesting with Michael and Rubens testing the new car and then deciding what to bring to Bahrain. I think it will be the 05
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:18 pm
by sgd
JayVee wrote:Thanks sgd,
It is amazing how slow the Ferraris were. I suspect though Michael had some sort of problem. His rear wing was getting darker all the time from oil or something.
This week, it will be interesting with Michael and Rubens testing the new car and then deciding what to bring to Bahrain. I think it will be the 05
yeah, amazing, and the test will be really interesting!! =)
I don't think that he had had any problem, he said the car were stable in the race... I've heard about MS doing great races with poor cars and all that stuff, that he's so great and so on and on and here you see him in a slow car and he not only do nothing but has been overpace, overqual. by barrichello all the way... now i don't see him as such a great driver, I've put him alongside with JV (sorry if i offend JV). he time has gone and i see (and hope for Todt) him loosing the 05 and 06 titles!
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:41 pm
by JayVee
sgd wrote:... now i don't see him as such a great driver, I've put him alongside with JV (sorry if i offend JV). he time has gone and i see (and hope for Todt) him loosing the 05 and 06 titles!
As much as I consider Michael over-rated, I don't think he's over the hill just yet
In Malaysia he was on the harder Bridgestone while Barrichello on the soft and that explains the lap times. But he is clearly unhappy with the situation. Last year he was much faster than Barrichello here.
If the Ferrari camp struggles this year then perhaps Michael will realise that the game is over and he quits. Maybe this is the beginning of the end
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:50 pm
by sgd
JayVee wrote:Maybe this is the beginning of the end
I hope so!! (for Todt
)
just, as Woogle "said" (in fact he didn't), lets hope won't happen as in the 2003 after the firt 3 races...
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:57 pm
by JayVee
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:02 pm
by JayVee
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:51 pm
by sgd
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 3:26 am
by lemon_martini2
OI!!! I said that too...
Ah these youngsters they know not of times past...
sgd,they are refering(I hope) to Ferrari's performance in 1980.WCC the year before,they managed to struggle to get a fifth or sixth place.IIRC Villeneuve ended up with about 3 points and even failed to qualify,as did Scheckter(last year's WDC)
Hey you don't see that anymore...WDC's failing to qualify.IIRC Piquet failed to qualify in Detroit?? 1982 and then won the next race.
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:01 am
by Julian Mayo
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:37 am
by sgd
lemon_martini2 wrote:sgd,they are refering(I hope) to Ferrari's performance in 1980.WCC the year before,they managed to struggle to get a fifth or sixth place.IIRC Villeneuve ended up with about 3 points and even failed to qualify,as did Scheckter(last year's WDC)
Hey you don't see that anymore...WDC's failing to qualify.IIRC Piquet failed to qualify in Detroit?? 1982 and then won the next race.
i see, but how much does it applyes here? it seems like in those years ferreri wasn't the team to beat...
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back Julian!!
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:56 am
by Graham Ross
sgd wrote:i see, but how much does it applyes here? it seems like in those years ferreri wasn't the team to beat...
Young man ....
1979 Ferrari - World Champions with 113 points
1980 Ferrari - 10th in the Championship with 8 points
Clear enough
And yes lemon_martini2 mentiond this as well
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:59 am
by sgd
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 10:28 am
by Julian Mayo
Now if only Minardi and Jordan could get their act together, ah perchance to dream
on BAR Honda,it would be me 
Clear enough!!!