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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 9:26 pm
by K-D
There was 20 cars available. You all saw them lined up on the strating grid, this is the time that the FIA counts cars, this is the place that the teams are contracted to be present.
20 cars were there, and 20 cars toook of on a a warmup lap.
14 cars then pulled into the pits, and only 6 cars to the start. The cars in the pits still had the option of starting from the pits, and as you may have noted, the drivers stayed in, the teams were ready to fuel the cars, and at least on the Danish signal, we heard the Renault to Alonso radio feed, where the team told Alonso:
"we are backing you in, they all acme to the pits"
So even though the teams had agreed, they were not quite sure, and I read that to mean, had McLaren taken the start then Renault would ahve gone out as well.
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 9:38 pm
by Kapel
Alonso stayed in the car for atleast 3-4 mins after the formation lap when parked in the pit garage.He was on radio with Falvio,where Flavio informed him that except for Ferrari,Jordan & Minardi everyone was in the pits.
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 11:33 pm
by JayVee
K-D wrote:There was 20 cars available. You all saw them lined up on the strating grid, this is the time that the FIA counts cars, this is the place that the teams are contracted to be present.
20 cars were there, and 20 cars toook of on a a warmup lap.
14 cars then pulled into the pits, and only 6 cars to the start. The cars in the pits still had the option of starting from the pits, and as you may have noted, the drivers stayed in, the teams were ready to fuel the cars, and at least on the Danish signal, we heard the Renault to Alonso radio feed, where the team told Alonso:
"we are backing you in, they all acme to the pits"
So even though the teams had agreed, they were not quite sure, and I read that to mean, had McLaren taken the start then Renault would ahve gone out as well.
The same thing may have happened in the McLaren garage for all we know. Just because we saw Alonso doesn't mean Raikkonen was out of his car ?
It was confusing yes so I don't blame the drivers for staying in their cars clinging to any hope. Any real competitor would have done the same. It is natural. They would have been the most frustrated of all.
You can read or make up stories but all 7 teams stood together on this and that is good for the future
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 11:57 pm
by rah
I may just be sinical, but I can't help wondering if this was a stunt to get GPWC back into the headlines. Nah....... couldn't be. But if GPWC goes ahead and Michelin ends up the control tyre....... then I probably wont do much as I will have forgoten.
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 1:31 am
by Byron Forbes
More like a stunt to keep F1 out of the U.S. ie Europe out of the U.S.
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 1:46 am
by Ed
Byron Forbes wrote:More like a stunt to keep F1 out of the U.S. ie Europe out of the U.S.
I sense a political comment there. Please lets keep that out!
I just want to point out that IMS didn't have any say on the proceedings. The FIA controls the event.
The FIA, the teams and their suppliers have caused the damage (everyone has their own theory about who is to blame of those) but I doubt anyone can blame IMS for this!
Re: What will happen to Michelin?
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:01 am
by <T-K>
Re: What will happen to Michelin?
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 2:54 pm
by Kapel
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 3:20 am
by polo2028
17) An Event may be cancelled if fewer than 12 cars are available for it.
So, FIA cheated to help Ferrari and Schumacher get their first win of the season, right?
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 7:42 am
by Julian Mayo
polo2028 wrote:17) An Event may be cancelled if fewer than 12 cars are available for it.
So, FIA cheated to help Ferrari and Schumacher get their first win of the season, right?
IMHO. "cheat" might be a tad strong, cerainlyIMHO there seemed to be an opportunity to call it a non-championship race.
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 3:29 pm
by Kapel
polo2028 wrote:17) An Event may be cancelled if fewer than 12 cars are available for it.
So, FIA cheated to help Ferrari and Schumacher get their first win of the season, right?
NO!!
1.There were 20 cars on the strating grid,so all is well there.(within the rules)
2.Acc. to rules , the cars can pull out of the race for safety reason,which the other teams did(within the rules)
3.The rule of 12 cars,as i understand ,is the number of cars present /turning up for the event and there were 20(within the rules)
