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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 8:49 pm
by K-D
RE30B#16 wrote:K-D wrote:Rossi have not shown anything that would make him a serious selection for a seat in F1. He is an awesomly talented Motorcycle racer, but that does not naturally make him any good in F1.

This is true, however there is decent enough reason to believe that he could make the switch successfully. Damon Hill did it. Mike Hailwood did it in the 60s. I think even Froilan Gonzalez "the Pampas Bull" raced motorbikes before Formula 1 like in the 30s or something.
I was in Spain and saw him race. He is like the "Ayrton Senna" of motorcycles. He is supremely talented.
Keep hope alive!
K-D, your moniker is the same as my late great dog. Rock on!
I agree that he is an extremely talented Motorcycle racer, but regardless og how many names you throw at me. The thread-starter is suggesting that he jumps straight into f1, and that is NOT possible.
Hill raced junior formulas, FFord, F3 and F3000 for several seasons, before he got a break into a poor tema in F1. Then he became a testdriver with Williams, finally clinching a race seat.
I do not know the details of Hailwoods accent (seppling) into F1, and and no idea of the Pampas Bull either, however I doubt that they went strainght from Motorcycle racing to F1.
In the back of my mind I think that Jonny cecotto was a Motorcycle racer before he started racing cars.
Was it not lawson who tried to become a CART racer, and "failed" - Failed as in he was at best an average middle of the field racer.
If Rossi decide to turn to autoracing, he can NOT switch directly into F1.

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 9:56 pm
by K-D
K-D wrote:...
In the back of my mind I think that Jonny cecotto was a Motorcycle racer before he started racing cars....
So I am not that old yet, I investigated Cecotto and found the following:
1975
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Cecotto gathered 54 points in 250cc and finished 4th overall in the world championship. He became world champion in the 350cc class with a total of 78 points.
1977
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Cecotto gathered 30 points in 350cc and finished 10th overall in the world championship. He became 4th in the world championship 500cc class with a total of 50 points.
1978
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Cecotto gathered 66 points in 500cc and finished 3rd overall in the world championship.
1980
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Cecotto gathered 37 points in 350cc and finished 4th overall in the world championship. He became 6th in the world championship 500cc class with a total of 31 points.
The season I do not show he raced as well, but had a number of injuries meaning that he did not place highly in the Championships.
But Cecotto was a very good Motorcycle racer before he moved to cars.
As an additional triviabit, which my combobulated mind find amusing. His hemlet desig was made in honor of his great hero Jarno Saurinin, after Saurinen died. The same Jarno Saurinin, after whom Jarno Trulli is named.

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 11:07 pm
by JayVee
K-D wrote:If Rossi decide to turn to autoracing, he can NOT switch directly into F1.

Says the Castle Master

Really K-D ? Why can he NOT
Even if it never happened before, there is always the first time

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 11:13 pm
by JayVee
Who was the only driver to win both the Motorcyle and Formula 1 Championships ?
(and made the switch to F1 from Bikes DIRECTLY

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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 12:29 am
by K-D
JayVee wrote:K-D wrote:If Rossi decide to turn to autoracing, he can NOT switch directly into F1.

Says the Castle Master

Really K-D ? Why can he NOT
Even if it never happened before, there is always the first time

Small thing like Superlicense could be one obstacle.
Other could be that in contempoary F1 car he has sofar been 4 seconds of pace. Hardly the thing legends are made of.
I do think that he is an awesome Motorcycle racer, but we have seen to many "normal" autoracers being hyped before they made it to F1, that I am willing to accept him directly into a F1 seat.

still confused
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:09 am
by N. Jones
So why are we discussing his possible entry into Formula1 if he is strictly a motorbike racer?
Re: still confused
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:02 pm
by K-D
N. Jones wrote:
So why are we discussing his possible entry into Formula1 if he is strictly a motorbike racer?
Becasue he has not denied that he would make a switch to autoracing, and there is to long between Bahrain and San Marino Grand Prixs

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:25 pm
by Julian Mayo
Or we could get a life

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:27 pm
by Bundy
as soon as i find my golf ball..
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:29 pm
by Julian Mayo
Could be a long time then

At least you are easily amused

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:50 pm
by Bundy
i have to be...i'm not that funny

Re: still confused
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:48 pm
by JayVee
N. Jones wrote:
So why are we discussing his possible entry into Formula1 if he is strictly a motorbike racer?
Because Da_Style's dad read so in an Italian newspaper (plus what K-D said)
Why the wait

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:50 pm
by JayVee
julian mayo wrote:Or we could get a life

Didn't you go get one some time back and it seems that you've finally found one ?
Isn't that your new found location ?
You move a lot!!
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:00 pm
by JayVee
No one has answered my question
Well John Surtees is the only driver to have won both the Motorcyle and Formula 1 Championships and he switched from Bikes to F1 straight away. See K-D, I am sure you would have guessed had you tried to think a little. I know it hurts but no pain no gain

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:04 pm
by JayVee
K-D wrote:Small thing like Superlicense could be one obstacle.

You've got to be JOKING
If Yoong can get one then Rossi can get one while sleeping
K-D wrote:Other could be that in contempoary F1 car he has sofar been 4 seconds of pace. Hardly the thing legends are made of.
Off what pace ? The lap record ? How many laps did he do, how many days ?
K-D wrote:I do think that he is an awesome Motorcycle racer, but we have seen to many "normal" autoracers being hyped before they made it to F1, that I am willing to accept him directly into a F1 seat.

Yes Castle Master. Not only are you the Ferrari Ambassador here but also the FIA's
