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 Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 10:15 pm Post subject: Round of Britain (biye extends the lead!) |
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The deadline for submitting picks for the British Grand Prix is on Friday the 8th of July prior to the start of the 1st Friday Practice session at 11:00 AM local time.
Race Preview is now available here.
The Call for Picks emails have been sent to all players.
On this thread you can show us your picks (if you wish of course) and tell us why your pick is the winner!
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| Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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Winner : Michael Schumacher - Cold, possibly wet.
Second : Kimi Raikkonen - Should get a trouble free race
Third : Fernando Alonso - Can't quit hang with Michael and Kimi
Fourth : Juan Pablo Montoya - Will do very good this weekend
Fifth : Giancarlo Fisichella - No bad luck, just a little less talent.
Sixth : Rubens Barrichello - Cold, possibly wet.
Seventh : Jenson Button - Avoiding the BBQ
Eighth : Ralf Schumacher - Best of the rest.
Pole : Michael Schumacher - Cold, possibly wet.
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Jim Watt
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 6:57 am Post subject: |
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 I feel the perfect fool for letting my heart rule my picks for France. I was so hoping that Kimi would destroy Fernando the Cute and ruin Flavio's party that I didn't even list him in my top 8! 
Woe is me; I haven't even checked to see where I might be on the pole n 8 list; I'm sure I'm out in Siberia somewhere by now.
But I have reformed and sworn off for the remainder of the season. Ten races (well, really only 9) down and Nine to go. I've fiddled around, then, this morning with the numbers and...
...after ten races, drivers? average finishing positions may be determined by awarding 1 point for a win, 2 points, for a second place and so on (ten first place finishes would equal 10 or 1.0); ten second place finishes would equal 20 or 2.). Places 1 through 20 are awarded by finishing order, DNF?s in descending order to 20 --and for races not contested, each driver is are awarded 20 points.
The numbers appear to support those who are championing Rubens over Michael and also reveal that Alonso?s march to the WDC is looking much stronger than the WDC points race suggests. If Fernando doesn?t have a DNF in a race that Kimi takes a podium, the Finn won?t be able to catch or pass him! Michael?s apparently being in the running is even more deceptive. In a word, neither of the Ferrari drivers would be even close if not for the Indianapolis fiasco.
On the other hand, Jarno Trulli looks to be a bargain for Toyota and a loss for Renault. Much as I have championed Fisi, I have to say this year he has not delivered. Could it be that J.T. was correct about the Renault effort: that it all goes to Fernando, the Cute? And one wonders, finally, what Ron Dennis is thinking about Juan Pablo these days. And too, the Webbo is looking good here, even if Williams seems to have forgotten how to get rid of hot gasses in their machines!! If things keep on at this rate, Sir Frank will be lucky to get Cosworths next year!!
My picks for pole n 8, then, are determined by my little mathmatical games; it means the Silverstone pole and the win goes to Fernando, and the rest will follow in the order the numbers dictate:
1. Alonso [51] 5.1
2. Raikkonen [74] 7.4
3. Barrichello [76] 7.6
4. Schumacher, M. [77] 7.7
5. Trulli [78] 7.8
6. Schumacher, R. [94] 9.4
7. Coulthard [97] 9.7
8. Webber [102] 10.2
and the rest of the numbers are:
Heidfeld [108] 10.8
Massa [116] 11.6
Monterio [120] 12
Fisichella [121] 12.1
Villeneuve [122] 12.2
Montoya [125] 12.5
Button [133] 13.3
Albers [142] 14.2
Karthikeyan [143] 14.3
Sato [152] 15.2
Frisacher [159] 15.9
Klien [163] 16.3
Liuzzi [172] 17.2
Wurtz [183] 18.3
delaRosa [185] 18.5
Davidson [199] 19.9
You have to ask yourself what has gone wrong at BAR/Honda, don't you? Though, of course, their numbers are affected by their suspension for two races. Still, Button is not outperforming Sato in anything like the way he did last year. And can he really still be looking forward to Sir Frank's burning seats? His numbers don't suggest he'd be any better than Heidfeld there, do they?
And how about Alex Wurtz's terrific showing?!: one race and he gets a podium. And I'll bet he gets paid about 1/5 as much as the Columbian!
I love F1. Even when Jay Vee comes down on me like A.J. Foyt!
Hope it rains and K-D's dreams come true, but I doubt it will happen. Michael used up all his racing luck last year!
Cheers and let's see a more exciting race than the Magny Cours parade this Sunday at Silverstone!
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Bundy
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 10:01 am Post subject: |
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Winner: Kimi Raikkonen
Second: Fernando Alonso
Third: Michael Schumacher
Fourth: Mark Webber
Fifth: Jenson Button
Sixth: Giancarlo Fisichella
Seventh: Jarno Trulli
Eighth: Rubens Barrichello
Pole: Kimi Raikkonen
i couldn't bring myself to tip MW for the win after France......
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 10:17 am Post subject: |
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| bundy wrote: |
Winner: Kimi Raikkonen
Second: Fernando Alonso
Third: Michael Schumacher
Fourth: Mark Webber
Fifth: Jenson Button
Sixth: Giancarlo Fisichella
Seventh: Jarno Trulli
Eighth: Rubens Barrichello
Pole: Kimi Raikkonen
i couldn't bring myself to tip MW for the win after France...... |
Me too 
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Julian Mayo
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 10:19 am Post subject: |
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pole :kimi
kimmi
Alonso
Weber
Schuey
Fisi
Trulli
Nick
Ruebens
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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bundy what happened 
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| f1idiots is no place for anyone whose theory for picking 8'n'pole is based on actual driver/car ability....it should be left for those who continue to push for their preferred driver/s no matter how unlikely it is that they will finish in the top 8 let alone qualify on pole. |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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| JayVee wrote: |
bundy what happened
| bundy wrote: |
| f1idiots is no place for anyone whose theory for picking 8'n'pole is based on actual driver/car ability....it should be left for those who continue to push for their preferred driver/s no matter how unlikely it is that they will finish in the top 8 let alone qualify on pole. |
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He, like me, can only tolerate so much pain
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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Good formula Jim but let me tell you, it won't work, sorry.
I don't think this competition works on a mathematical model other wise K-D would be leading
Besides you may need to revise the model slightly and add a "feel good/feel bad" factor. I reckon BAR will be finishing in the points a lot and the opposite can be said of Williams
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I love F1. Even when Jay Vee comes down on me like A.J. Foyt!
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And who is this A.J. Foyt ?
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Michael used up all his racing luck last year!
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Too right 
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Cheers and let's see a more exciting race than the Magny Cours parade this Sunday at Silverstone!
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Some people just never get satisfied  . Last year nearly all the races were Ferrari parades, if we have a couple this season so ? (personally I don't mind an Alonso parade every race , ok ok just this year)
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JV, please try to put your personal pleasure aside for a moment . The last thing F1 can tolerate at the moment (outside Max) is domination by ANY driver for even one season.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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Understood but really how many parades did we have this year ?
That is my point.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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| JayVee wrote: |
bundy what happened
| bundy wrote: |
| f1idiots is no place for anyone whose theory for picking 8'n'pole is based on actual driver/car ability....it should be left for those who continue to push for their preferred driver/s no matter how unlikely it is that they will finish in the top 8 let alone qualify on pole. |
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i'm at that stage where i am soooooo far behind i start tipping ridiculous results in the hope that everyone crashes & burns and i'm catapulted into the lead......never works but
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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| JayVee wrote: |
Understood but really how many parades did we have this year ?
That is my point. |
Understood
BUT
how many times have we seen the lead change on the track? That is my point
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| bundy wrote: |
| JayVee wrote: |
bundy what happened
| bundy wrote: |
| f1idiots is no place for anyone whose theory for picking 8'n'pole is based on actual driver/car ability....it should be left for those who continue to push for their preferred driver/s no matter how unlikely it is that they will finish in the top 8 let alone qualify on pole. |
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i'm at that stage where i am soooooo far behind i start tipping ridiculous results in the hope that everyone crashes & burns and i'm catapulted into the lead......never works but |
I trie that too, I was the only one who crashed and burned
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| Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:31 am Post subject: A[nthony] J[oseph] Foyt |
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Jay Vee wrote: Good formula Jim but let me tell you, it won't work, sorry.
I KNOW, I KNOW, IT'S JUST THAT I GOT RANKED 466th for G.P. France and am now 383 OVERALL!! SO I FIGURED I COULDN'T GET ANY WORSE!
I don't think this competition works on a mathematical model other wise K-D would be leading
I KNOW IT DOESN'T, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT K-D USES A MATH MODEL
Besides you may need to revise the model slightly and add a "feel good/feel bad" factor. I reckon BAR will be finishing in the points a lot and the opposite can be said of Williams
YOU'RE PROBABLY RIGHT ABOUT BAR, BUT DON'T PUT ANY MONEY ON IT; THEY COULD END UP BEHIND SAUBER THIS YEAR!!
And who is this A.J. Foyt ?
A[nthony] J[oseph] Foyt is the first 4-time winner of the Indianapolis 500; he's a sort of combination of the best (and worst) qualities of Jack Brabbham and Jimmy Clark. He would do anything to win and wasn't above turning a wrench or two to make sure of it. He's also notorious for his "colorful" language and inability to suffer fools (translate that word into "motor sports journalists")
BUT YOU KNEW THAT, DIDN'T YOU?
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