The 2006 Turkish Grand Prix

[RE30B#16]

For those of a superstitious nature Felipe is now the 6th Brazilian to earn a pole position, the 6th Brazilian to win a race, in his 66th start, with car number 6, it was win number 6 for Ferrari this year, in the year 2006

I don't know about Massa's satanistic tendencies but you have done well my friend

That's too many 6's! I think the pendulum swings back into the positive zone if you have more than three 6's.

[Julian Mayo]

The World Motor Sport Council has found the National Sporting Authority of Turkey (TOSFED) and the organisers of the Turkish Grand Prix (MSO) guilty on all counts.

The organisations have been fined a combined total of 5 Million US dollars.

Earlier the FIA summoned the above organisations for breaching the FIA Statutes, the International Sporting Code and the 2006 Formula One Sporting Regulations after Mr Mehmet Ali Talat was invited to present the winner?s trophy at the 2006 Turkish Grand Prix.

Mr. Mehmet Ali Talat was introduced as the President of the Turkish Cypriot state on TV.

Another lovely little earner for the FIA.

I recall vividly being enraged and insensed when the presentation was made. It's a f****** outrage I exclaimed. My wife told me to calm down. I now feel totally vindicated by this decision. Never again shall I have to recognise a member of an unrecognised state!

Were you in an unrecognised state when reckonising a member of an unrecognised state, which you will never have to recognise again

[Snowy]

Were you in an unrecognised state when reckonising a member of an unrecognised state, which you will never have to recognise again

I recognised my state almost immediately but in that state I was unable to recognise the exit. Recognising that the recognition was contrary to any recognised state or state of mind recognised under the Geneva convention I tempered the recoil induced by that recognition of an unrecognisable recognee and in recognition of that fact I actually emerged as something recognisably approximating what I once was which may or may not have been recognised as me or my state of mind or recognised country of origin. If you see what I mean?

[Snowy]

For those of a superstitious nature Felipe is now the 6th Brazilian to earn a pole position, the 6th Brazilian to win a race, in his 66th start, with car number 6, it was win number 6 for Ferrari this year, in the year 2006

I don't know about Massa's satanistic tendencies but you have done well my friend

That's too many 6's! I think the pendulum swings back into the positive zone if you have more than three 6's.

Is that all actually true? Because statistically speaking the probability of that actually occuring is so remote as to make the 'Infinite Improbabilty Drive' a very finite probability

Which would please Douglas Adams if he were alive today

[Julian Mayo]

Were you in an unrecognised state when reckonising a member of an unrecognised state, which you will never have to recognise again

I recognised my state almost immediately but in that state I was unable to recognise the exit. Recognising that the recognition was contrary to any recognised state or state of mind recognised under the Geneva convention I tempered the recoil induced by that recognition of an unrecognisable recognee and in recognition of that fact I actually emerged as something recognisably approximating what I once was which may or may not have been recognised as me or my state of mind or recognised country of origin. If you see what I mean?

Yup.
You kinda misplaced y'self for a wee while................kinda like a B&S........usually takes me 2 to 3 days to recognise the tree/tankstand/virgin / I buried "Therapy's" keys under

[Ed]

The World Motor Sport Council has found the National Sporting Authority of Turkey (TOSFED) and the organisers of the Turkish Grand Prix (MSO) guilty on all counts.

The organisations have been fined a combined total of 5 Million US dollars.

Earlier the FIA summoned the above organisations for breaching the FIA Statutes, the International Sporting Code and the 2006 Formula One Sporting Regulations after Mr Mehmet Ali Talat was invited to present the winner?s trophy at the 2006 Turkish Grand Prix.

Mr. Mehmet Ali Talat was introduced as the President of the Turkish Cypriot state on TV.

The Turkish Automobile Sports Federation (TOSFED) decided to appeal the FIA decision. The appeal will be heard on the 7th of November with the decision expected on the 8th.

Sometimes appealing yields a harsher decision and that could mean no Turkish Grand Prix!

[Julian Mayo]

Do you think the appeal is another political statement, and they don't care about the GP, Ed?

[gkaytaz]

The Turkish Automobile Sports Federation (TOSFED) decided to appeal the FIA decision. The appeal will be heard on the 7th of November with the decision expected on the 8th.

Sometimes appealing yields a harsher decision and that could mean no Turkish Grand Prix!

Given that the circuit is a new one and a sizeable source of income for the next 97 years it's probable that the FIA will stand behind their decision and leave the fine as is instead of scratching the GP.

[Julian Mayo]

The Turkish Automobile Sports Federation (TOSFED) decided to appeal the FIA decision. The appeal will be heard on the 7th of November with the decision expected on the 8th.

Sometimes appealing yields a harsher decision and that could mean no Turkish Grand Prix!

Given that the circuit is a new one and a sizeable source of income for the next 97 years it's probable that the FIA will stand behind their decision and leave the fine as is instead of scratching the GP.

you ol' cynic, you

[Ed]

Do you think the appeal is another political statement, and they don't care about the GP, Ed?

I doubt it! It may be as simple as the organisers don't have that much money to spare and could break them. Or they may really believe that the fine may be dropped a bit. It could also be a case of just going through the appeal process because someone high up told them they have to.

[Julian Mayo]

Do you think the appeal is another political statement, and they don't care about the GP, Ed?

I doubt it! It may be as simple as the organisers don't have that much money to spare and could break them. Or they may really believe that the fine may be dropped a bit. It could also be a case of just going through the appeal process because someone high up told them they have to.

Tis that "high up" that worries me,......my closest relative outside my immediate family was ......half raised, ....raised half........buggerit....spent a lot of time in Turkey........she fears for the future of F1 because she thinks those who would will use it as a "force majuer"........or whatever......(never could master french........innuit was easy)

[gkaytaz]

Do you think the appeal is another political statement, and they don't care about the GP, Ed?

I doubt it! It may be as simple as the organisers don't have that much money to spare and could break them. Or they may really believe that the fine may be dropped a bit. It could also be a case of just going through the appeal process because someone high up told them they have to.

I agree. Another political statement would be pointless. FIA is a multinational organization after all. But I understand why they appeal: five million George Washingtons is a hefty price to pay. If they do not have that kind of dough to spare then it's only natural to appeal. Nothing more to lose

[Julian Mayo]

Do you think the appeal is another political statement, and they don't care about the GP, Ed?

I doubt it! It may be as simple as the organisers don't have that much money to spare and could break them. Or they may really believe that the fine may be dropped a bit. It could also be a case of just going through the appeal process because someone high up told them they have to.

I agree. Another political statement would be pointless. FIA is a multinational organization after all. But I understand why they appeal: five million George Washingtons is a hefty price to pay. If they do not have that kind of dough to spare then it's only natural to appeal. Nothing more to lose

These guys are making a National Statement over a large chunk of turf........I suspect their GDP may be of more interest than Bernies bucks, the FIA's sheckels etc

[Ed]

At the latest World Motor Sport Council meeting, it was revealed that the Turkish Grand Prix Organisers (MSO) paid half of the fine (2.5 Million USD).

The National Sporting Authority of Turkey (TOSFED) is still appealing.

A statement from the FIA read:

In regard to the US$5 million fine against the National Sporting Authority of Turkey (TOSFED) and the Organisers of the Turkish Grand Prix (MSO), a US$2.5 million payment from MSO has been unanimously accepted. This removes MSO?s liability. The remaining monies are still owed by TOSFED.

Is this a strategic play by the Turks or just a case of the organisers not wanting to appeal to avoid a larger fine ?

The appeal will be heard on the 9th of November.

[gkaytaz]

Is this a strategic play by the Turks or just a case of the organisers not wanting to appeal to avoid a larger fine ?

The appeal will be heard on the 9th of November.

More likely they are being "coached".