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JayVee · Post by **JayVee** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 5:55 pm

Good post Byron.

I just hope julian is reading (and not just ping ponging

Thanks Jim

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Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 6:04 pm

JayVee wrote:Good post Byron.

I just hope julian is reading (and not just ping ponging Thanks Jim )

ping

F1greyhound · Post by **F1greyhound** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 7:19 pm

I agree that MARK tried to fulfill his own high expectations and the hype about his talent and that he pushed too hard. I agree that he is a very talented driver. I agree that the WILLIAMS this year is not great.

BUT.............MARK did not do better than NICK, and he certainly did rather worse than JENSON. Look where TAKU is in the points. JENSON actually has proven to be special, last year in a decent car he had 10 podiums and this year with all the problems he takes the maximum out of it.

I think that MICHAEL, KIMI, FERNANDO and JENSON would have done better than MARK in the WILLIAMS, at least some 10-20 points.

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 7:29 pm

F1greyhound wrote:I agree that MARK tried to fulfill his own high expectations and the hype about his talent and that he pushed too hard. I agree that he is a very talented driver. I agree that the WILLIAMS this year is not great.

BUT.............MARK did not do better than NICK, and he certainly did rather worse than JENSON. Look where TAKU is in the points. JENSON actually has proven to be special, last year in a decent car he had 10 podiums and this year with all the problems he takes the maximum out of it.

I think that MICHAEL, KIMI, FERNANDO and JENSON would have done better than MARK in the WILLIAMS, at least some 10-20 points.

Yeah, Michael has done SO well in the Ferrari this year.

F1greyhound · Post by **F1greyhound** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:39 pm

Ahh, Julian, you got the point. MICHAEL should have won the WDC even in this years car, on this years tyres. Probably he lost his driving abilities...

CHEERS!

Byron Forbes · Post by **Byron Forbes** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:14 pm

F1greyhound wrote:I think that MICHAEL, KIMI, FERNANDO and JENSON would have done better than MARK in the WILLIAMS, at least some 10-20 points.

Disagreed. I think Webber would have been world Champ in Alonso's Renault too since the hypertheticals have begun. I think all drivers named by you would have had the same problems as Webber, especially with reguard to launch control, Michelin tyre problems, burnt arses and some poor driving by those around him. He hasn't really made too many mistakes but he hasn't shone too often either.

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 6:51 am

Byron Forbes wrote:
F1greyhound wrote:I think that MICHAEL, KIMI, FERNANDO and JENSON would have done better than MARK in the WILLIAMS, at least some 10-20 points.
Disagreed. I think Webber would have been world Champ in Alonso's Renault too since the hypertheticals have begun. I think all drivers named by you would have had the same problems as Webber, especially with reguard to launch control, Michelin tyre problems, burnt arses and some poor driving by those around him. He hasn't really made too many mistakes but he hasn't shone too often either.

Unless you count the scar tissue on his backside from both burns, apparantly its quite shiny

<T-K> · Post by **<T-K>** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:19 pm

julian mayo wrote: Unless you count the scar tissue on his backside from both burns, apparantly its quite shiny

I dont even wanna know how you found that out....

danilen1 · Post by **danilen1** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:23 pm

lol, this thread is going way off topic!!
back to JB, do you think he can beat barrichello in the points race, currently he's only 5 behind and his past few races have been very good.

JayVee · Post by **JayVee** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 4:41 pm

Yes JB will probably beat Barrichello in the points this year but that would be because the Ferrari package is no good and Barrichello has lost all interest

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 4:53 pm

JayVee wrote:Yes JB will probably beat Barrichello in the points this year but that would be because the Ferrari package is no good and Barrichello has lost all interest

Rhubino is interested only in beating Schuey.

JayVee · Post by **JayVee** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 5:02 pm

julian mayo wrote:
JayVee wrote:Yes JB will probably beat Barrichello in the points this year but that would be because the Ferrari package is no good and Barrichello has lost all interest
Rhubino is interested only in beating Schuey.

You mean that's what Barrichello is contracted to say

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 5:07 pm

JayVee wrote:
julian mayo wrote:
JayVee wrote:Yes JB will probably beat Barrichello in the points this year but that would be because the Ferrari package is no good and Barrichello has lost all interest
Rhubino is interested only in beating Schuey.
You mean that's what Barrichello is contracted to say

No, thats not what I mean.

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:12 pm

Sir Frank is reported to have just knocked back an offer of $US 22 million from Honda for Button.
My read on that is that Sir Frank must have some big sponsorship deal in the pipeline that is dependant on Button joining the team which is worth a lot more, because 22mil buys a lot of cosworth engines. It sure as hell is nothing to do with Buttons ability or lack of.

rah · Post by **rah** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:13 pm

Well my sources say that JB is staying at BAR next year. The price is around 30mil.

Just for refernce my secret source is www.grandprix.com