I think it's fair to not impose a penalty on a Friday failure. If a driver wants to try and learn the circuit he should be able to do so as long as he uses a different engine than the one to be used during the quali/race. The "deliberate physical damage to dog rings" issue is prone to raise more questions however.Ed wrote:I suspect that the Saturday and Sunday engines will be the FIA sealed ones while those used on Friday won't be. Teams will be busy on Friday afternoon changing engines but that isn't too much of a problem. Just a few years ago most teams used to qualify on special engines (meaning 2 engine changes at least!)Julian Mayo wrote:Ed, am I right in thinking that no penalty applies to an engine failure on the Friday ?
FIA / GPMA - F1 from 2008 (FIA and GPMA in agreement!)
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The FIA and GPMA have resolved their differences and are now in agreement on all the major issues facing Formula 1. They are now calling themselves partners!
The FIA and the Manufacturers have agreed on focussing on energy and heat recovery technologies and fuel efficiencies while maintaining the same level of overall power that the current car delivers.
For 2009 and 2010 regulations will be introduced for energy and heat recovery while a smaller and possibly turbocharge engine will be considered for 2011.
The FIA also wants to significantly reduce aerodynamics development as the technology doesn't flow onto production cars.
FIA President Max Mosley and GMPA Chairman Professor Burkhard G?schel gave a lengthy Q & A session in which they discussed all the above and more.
Full article (it is a lengthy but interesting read)
The FIA and the Manufacturers have agreed on focussing on energy and heat recovery technologies and fuel efficiencies while maintaining the same level of overall power that the current car delivers.
For 2009 and 2010 regulations will be introduced for energy and heat recovery while a smaller and possibly turbocharge engine will be considered for 2011.
The FIA also wants to significantly reduce aerodynamics development as the technology doesn't flow onto production cars.
FIA President Max Mosley and GMPA Chairman Professor Burkhard G?schel gave a lengthy Q & A session in which they discussed all the above and more.
Full article (it is a lengthy but interesting read)
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Yes an agreement between the FIA and the Manufacturers can appear to be removing the small players but they are trying to cut costs so that should help the private teams.
Also the ideas of energy recovery and the usage of bio fuels are great and if F1 focuses on that then breakthroughs in technologies will come sooner.
Of course this is all talk. We'll have to wait and see the real results. Like will the F1 engine be a 2.0 Turbo Diesel engine in 2011 ? How much energy will they recover in 2009, etc ....
Also the ideas of energy recovery and the usage of bio fuels are great and if F1 focuses on that then breakthroughs in technologies will come sooner.
Of course this is all talk. We'll have to wait and see the real results. Like will the F1 engine be a 2.0 Turbo Diesel engine in 2011 ? How much energy will they recover in 2009, etc ....
No Samuel L. Jackson eitherJulian Mayo wrote:it aint a drive shaft you are talking about....., Dats fer shureSnowy wrote:La idea de un F1 ecol?gico es buena. Sin embargo, usted y yo sabemos que ?l shafting a peque?o individuo.![]()
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