Alonso to McLaren in 2007

<T-K> · Post by **<T-K>** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 7:42 am

K wrote:
rah wrote: Lol, so I see. Me thinks that it will be Alonso and Monty in 07.

And what of the rumours of Renault chucking in the towel at the end of 07. Very disturbing indeed.
Montoya is a Fool. It was obvious as soon as his McLaren deal was announced that he would have a rubbish season with Williams and throw his toys out the pram, and that upon arrival at McLaren he would not be as fast as Kimi, he would not be consistent throughout the season, just like at Williams, all he is capable of is being a nuisance to his team-mate and blowing allot of hot air and taking time and effort away from those who are serious about their job, I really can't see Alonso wanting to share a team with him, I mean he might but it wouldn't be pretty. It wouldn't surprise me if Montoya made a big money move to Toyota, it would seem to suit their marketing strategy and Motoyas wallet. He isn't in the same class as Alonso or Raikkonen, and they're a way off Michael.

As for Renault, they're quitters. They've done it before and they'll do it again. Ferrari are the only truly committed team in F1 to F1, Renault just flit in and out whenever it suits them, screw their partners and the sport.

Alonso just has to hope that Mclaren can make a good car and Merc can make a non-exploding engine. The move could be catastrophic in the wake of the Newey departure as well as the others that have left, you just don't know right now how they will handle it unless anyone has some serious insider information, anyone?

And HOW do you know Flav wasn't involved in Alonsos' move? He has to say he wasn't involved or he'd get himself in some serious sh**, he just let go of the first dude to win a championship for Renault since '97 without having a proven replacement. HE WAS INVOLVED, I don't buy that cr*p (read in silly childish accent) "er Alonstho went behind my back and sealed a multi million dollar racing contract all by himself, I mean what a sthneaky little so and so, how dare he now I'm really angry but I'm still gonna manage him and take a cut even though he's perfectly capable of negotiating with some of the hardest negotiators in F1 all by himself, and treats me like I'm not even there" COME ON!!! HE WAS IN ON IT, HE'S TAKING A FAT WEDGE OF GREEN OFF RON AND HE'S LAUGHING ALL THE WAY TO HIS PRIVATE BANK IN THE CATACOMBS OF HIS KENYAN HOLIDAY CASTLE.

Ed wrote:Renault F1 Team President Patrick Faure said of the announcement:
The Renault F1 Team and Fernando Alonso have enjoyed historic successes together since he joined the team in 2002. I was disappointed to learn of Fernando's decision but, by the end of 2006, he will have spent five seasons with Renault. Fresh challenges are essential for any sportsman, and he has taken the decision to pursue a new direction in his career. That is part of Formula 1, and part of life.
Full Statement
YEAH RIGHT. Read as "We're p*ss*d. F***ing p*ss*d, now we ain't gonna be winning any championships before we leave F1 except Formula Renault and maybe F1 '06 if that two-timing Spaniard can keep his motivation up"

JayVee wrote:
Redhead wrote:
Massa's not going anywhere, Schumi is going to McLaren next year, he's 's stung by what JayVee's been saying and wants to try to set the record straight.

Massa's not going anywhere.

Schumi never had a strong teammate.

But I like the try bit

Schumi's never had a strong team-mate? I suppose you don't really rate Nelson Piquet then, pardon sorry who is he did you say? dear dear dear

As for Massa it doesn't matter if Schui's there or not Massa aint gonna be in that race car. Not unless Rossi has a biking accident or decides that F1 just isn't for him. And there have been reports in the European media for the last five years about Kimi and Ferrari.

OH yeah and you see your signature JayVee, would it possible for Alonso to win in F1 on anything other than Michelins this season?

Tread carefully, there are many people you dont want to upset....

Snowy · Post by **Snowy** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 8:08 am

Did you get out of bed on the wrong side this morning T-K?

JPM is many things but not a nuisance to his team mates surely?

JayVee · Post by **JayVee** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 12:42 pm

K wrote:
rah wrote: Lol, so I see. Me thinks that it will be Alonso and Monty in 07.

And what of the rumours of Renault chucking in the towel at the end of 07. Very disturbing indeed.
Montoya is a Fool. It was obvious as soon as his McLaren deal was announced that he would have a rubbish season with Williams and throw his toys out the pram
...

He isn't in the same class as Alonso or Raikkonen, and they're a way off Michael.

The last I checked, in 2004 Montoya finished 5th winning the last race of the season and beating Raikkonen on points and had more than double the points of his teammate. So no it wasn't obvious

As for being off Michael, I gave you hard facts before about Alonso and Michael and showed you that Michael won his 1st title in the cruelest of ways whereas Alonso won his in style with 2 races to spare, and at a younger age. Comparing both, so far in his career Alonso is AHEAD of Michael.

K wrote:As for Renault, they're quitters. They've done it before and they'll do it again. Ferrari are the only truly committed team in F1 to F1, Renault just flit in and out whenever it suits them, screw their partners and the sport.

And every other team except Ferrari are too - according to your statement. Perhaps you would like to watch a Ferrari series.

At least with Renault we've seen an amazing acheivement of being able to return to the sport and beat everyone in RECORD time. You call that screwing their partners and the sport huh ?
Screwing the fans is what Ferrari and Michael are good at doing. Win at all costs. Create a team with a driver and a helper and have blatant team orders and be so arrogant to try a photo finish at a race. That is screwing the sport.

K wrote:Alonso just has to hope that Mclaren can make a good car and Merc can make a non-exploding engine. The move could be catastrophic in the wake of the Newey departure as well as the others that have left, you just don't know right now how they will handle it unless anyone has some serious insider information, anyone?

Perhaps you can reply to Redhead with this. From a Ferrari fan to another

K wrote:And HOW do you know Flav wasn't involved in Alonsos' move? He has to say he wasn't involved or he'd get himself in some serious sh**, he just let go of the first dude to win a championship for Renault since '97 without having a proven replacement. HE WAS INVOLVED, I don't buy that cr*p (read in silly childish accent) "er Alonstho went behind my back and sealed a multi million dollar racing contract all by himself, I mean what a sthneaky little so and so, how dare he now I'm really angry but I'm still gonna manage him and take a cut even though he's perfectly capable of negotiating with some of the hardest negotiators in F1 all by himself, and treats me like I'm not even there" COME ON!!! HE WAS IN ON IT, HE'S TAKING A FAT WEDGE OF GREEN OFF RON AND HE'S LAUGHING ALL THE WAY TO HIS PRIVATE BANK IN THE CATACOMBS OF HIS KENYAN HOLIDAY CASTLE.

What is this and why ? Don't you have studying to do ?
Whether Flav knew or not, so what ? Alonso would be with Renault for 5 years at the end of 2006. It isn't surprising that he made a move. Whether he made the annoucnement now or a few month ago or in a few month is really irrelevant unless you are the media that loves makes sensational headlines. Simply, Alonso knows he is good, knows that he will get the backing of Renault and knows that he will beat whoever he partners at McLaren.

JayVee wrote:
Redhead wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote:there are reports in various european media that Kimi has signed the deal with Ferrari for next year. What will happen to Massa, if Schuey stays ?
Massa's not going anywhere, Schumi is going to McLaren next year, he's 's stung by what JayVee's been saying and wants to try to set the record straight.

Massa's not going anywhere.

Schumi never had a strong teammate.

But I like the try bit

K wrote:Schumi's never had a strong team-mate? I suppose you don't really rate Nelson Piquet then, pardon sorry who is he did you say? dear dear dear

Being childish doesn't help K. It just reflects on you.

Piquet is a World Champion but was in his 14th and on his way to retirement when Michael Schumacher drove alongside him for 5 races. Can you read 5.

Perhaps you don't understand the concept of an ageing driver. You know the driver that thinks they are the best but still crash into people on their way to the grid and spin off behind a safety car. Oh that reminds me of someone who is in his 14th full season only managed to win 1 6 car entry race!

I am sure that will sink in this season when The Rebel starts to get rated just because he beats an ageing driver

K wrote:As for Massa it doesn't matter if Schui's there or not Massa aint gonna be in that race car. Not unless Rossi has a biking accident or decides that F1 just isn't for him. And there have been reports in the European media for the last five years about Kimi and Ferrari.

OH yeah and you see your signature JayVee, would it possible for Alonso to win in F1 on anything other than Michelins this season?

So you beleive some of the rumours .... I see.

As for Michelin, I don't imagine you've read reports claiming that Bridgestone would be the better tyre as tyre changes are back ? No ?
Well Alonso will prove that you don't have to hide behind the tyre excuse

<T-K> · Post by **<T-K>** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:16 pm

Snowy wrote:Did you get out of bed on the wrong side this morning T-K?

JPM is many things but not a nuisance to his team mates surely?

I havent even gotten out of bed yet........

I am the biggest Pablo fan in here.....he will win the championship this year just because he is good enough to beat Kimi.....and fonzi........and now I sit back and wait for K to come in here and utterly destroy my optimism for the day.......

Snowy · Post by **Snowy** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:05 am

<T-K> wrote: I havent even gotten out of bed yet........

I am the biggest Pablo fan in here.....he will win the championship this year just because he is good enough to beat Kimi.....and fonzi........and now I sit back and wait for K to come in here and utterly destroy my optimism for the day.......

Beg your pardon T-K didn't realize you were quoting

It would appear K has dropped off the radar. Perhaps if your out there K COME BACK!! forgive us our trespasses and all that... we can sort this out democratically surely?

<T-K> · Post by **<T-K>** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:13 am

Snowy wrote: Beg your pardon T-K didn't realize you were quoting It would appear K has dropped off the radar. Perhaps if your out there K COME BACK!! forgive us our trespasses and all that... we can sort this out democratically surely?

How democratic do you think we can possibly be ??

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:43 pm

According to "Auotaction" Renault has offered Fisi a contract for '07, which he is expected to sign in the next couple of weeks.

rah · Post by **rah** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 1:43 pm

Julian Mayo wrote:According to "Auotaction" Renault has offered Fisi a contract for '07, which he is expected to sign in the next couple of weeks.

So much for Alonso wrecking his career.

JayVee · Post by **JayVee** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:52 pm

Renault are in a difficult position. It will be risky for them to hire two new drivers in 2007 but even then, I doubt they will confirm Fisichella this early. He needs to show that he can do well when something goes wrong.
Until this gets confirmed, it is just a rumour just like those rumours about Raikkonen and Montoya being offered drives from Renault.
I think there is only 1 seat available at Renault. Kovalainen will take Alonso's place next year. He is good and is doing an excellent job in testing.

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:51 pm

JayVee wrote:Renault are in a difficult position. It will be risky for them to hire two new drivers in 2007 but even then, I doubt they will confirm Fisichella this early. He needs to show that he can do well when something goes wrong.
Until this gets confirmed, it is just a rumour just like those rumours about Raikkonen and Montoya being offered drives from Renault.
I think there is only 1 seat available at Renault. Kovalainen will take Alonso's place next year. He is good and is doing an excellent job in testing.

read the first part of your post. It is not a rumour. If you believe it is prove it.

JayVee · Post by **JayVee** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 8:57 am

Can't understand your logic

Until Renault confirms Fisichella, anything you read in the media remains a rumour. Just like the Raikkonen rumour or the Montoya rumour.

What I said about Renault's position and Kovalainen is my opinion, I don't need to prove an opinion

Kapel · Post by **Kapel** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 2:02 pm

That is correct

rah · Post by **rah** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 10:11 am

There have been other rumours about MS joining Renault in 07 with Kovalainen. That would be interesting to watch and be a big coup for Flavio after his Alonso embarresment.

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 10:22 am

rah wrote:There have been other rumours about MS joining Renault in 07 with Kovalainen. That would be interesting to watch and be a big coup for Flavio after his Alonso embarresment.

I think, Rah, you and I read the same websites

F1greyhound · Post by **F1greyhound** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:07 pm

Heard from a pretty safe source within the team that FERNANDO and MICHAEL are fix at MCLAREN for 2007..