Ferrari is cheating!! (again!) - Opinion

Kapel · Post by **Kapel** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 4:47 pm

JayVee wrote:
rah wrote: lol, women are the reason that men die first.

I don't agree that Michael gets more attention in the garage. I do agree that his strategy will take priority of Rubens, I also agree that Michael will get the better parts first. But if they had the parts to put on both cars they would do it.
I'll be happy with 2 out of 3

And what you said "I also agree that Michael will get the better parts first" is what I meant about Rubens getting the inferior car

Thats not true JayVee,Everyteam tries new parts first on 1 car & if all goes well then the second cars also gets it(if they have not been tested completely during test or r not confident,like F2005).
No team wants to risk of having both car perform miserably during the race trying something new or radical,like Williams.

JayVee · Post by **JayVee** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 4:59 pm

Kapel wrote:
JayVee wrote:
rah wrote: lol, women are the reason that men die first.

I don't agree that Michael gets more attention in the garage. I do agree that his strategy will take priority of Rubens, I also agree that Michael will get the better parts first. But if they had the parts to put on both cars they would do it.
I'll be happy with 2 out of 3

And what you said "I also agree that Michael will get the better parts first" is what I meant about Rubens getting the inferior car
Thats not true JayVee,Everyteam tries new parts first on 1 car & if all goes well then the second cars also gets it(if they have not been tested completely during test or r not confident,like F2005).
No team wants to risk of having both car perform miserably during the race trying something new or radical,like Williams.

Hey Kapel, it was rah who said "I also agree that Michael will get the better parts first". Why didn't you address him too

Anyway, we are not talking about "test" bits

And Ferrari ain't Jordan

Kapel · Post by **Kapel** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 5:09 pm

JayVee wrote:
Kapel wrote:
JayVee wrote:
I'll be happy with 2 out of 3

And what you said "I also agree that Michael will get the better parts first" is what I meant about Rubens getting the inferior car
Thats not true JayVee,Everyteam tries new parts first on 1 car & if all goes well then the second cars also gets it(if they have not been tested completely during test or r not confident,like F2005).
No team wants to risk of having both car perform miserably during the race trying something new or radical,like Williams.
Hey Kapel, it was rah who said "I also agree that Michael will get the better parts first". Why didn't you address him too

Anyway, we are not talking about "test" bits

And Ferrari ain't Jordan

Ok, Rah i dont agree with u

F1greyhound · Post by **F1greyhound** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 10:12 pm

So what about the cheating?

rah · Post by **rah** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:28 pm

Kapel wrote: Ok, Rah i dont agree with u

LOL, yes you do.

JayVee · Post by **JayVee** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 2:23 pm

F1greyhound wrote:So what about the cheating?

Check with the approriate party

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 2:33 pm

JayVee wrote:
F1greyhound wrote:So what about the cheating?
Check with the approriate party

PARTY

WHERE, WHERE ?????

F1greyhound · Post by **F1greyhound** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 6:03 pm

SGD(Seargend?) will know..

sgd · Post by **sgd** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 9:11 pm

This is just funny, first Renault ask the FIA to see the ferrari's rear wing, (saying ferrari are f***ing cheaters), but FIA said wings was Ok (sayinf ferrari are not cheaters)... now all the teams protest on ferrari wings (saying ferrari are f***ing cheaters) and after that
ferrari have now conceded that they had misinterpreted the regulations governing the cars' wings and had assured their rivals that they would use modified wings at the next race, the Australian GP (saying they are indeed f***ing cheaters) and still after that they will make it without sanctions...

this is just so f***ing funny!!!!!!!!!!

would it be Honda or Toyota... 3-race ban immediately (at least)
but ferrari even after saying "yes we cheat" is OK.

some said they are not cheaters?? FIA is not ferrari-biased??

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 11:49 pm

sgd wrote:This is just funny, first Renault ask the FIA to see the ferrari's rear wing, (saying ferrari are f***ing cheaters), but FIA said wings was Ok (sayinf ferrari are not cheaters)... now all the teams protest on ferrari wings (saying ferrari are f***ing cheaters) and after that
ferrari have now conceded that they had misinterpreted the regulations governing the cars' wings and had assured their rivals that they would use modified wings at the next race, the Australian GP (saying they are indeed f***ing cheaters) and still after that they will make it without sanctions...
this is just so f***ing funny!!!!!!!!!!

would it be Honda or Toyota... 3-race ban immediately (at least)
but ferrari even after saying "yes we cheat" is OK.

some said they are not cheaters?? FIA is not ferrari-biased??

HHHHhhhhmmmmmmmmmm, let me muse on that for a while...............
Yup...they are cheaters......and so is Max.........imho.
Now lets see who Max and Ferrari go after to deflect the attention from Ferrari........Renault....small tanks ?

Snowy · Post by **Snowy** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 12:12 am

The idea is to test the grey areas in the regs and if one team gets away with it then all the others follow suit. However it would appear that Farrari have had more than their fair share of luck when it comes to dealings with the FIA. I imagine that they didn't try very hard to win this race just in case, they wouldn't want to force the FIA's hand would they? What effect this is going to have on their competitiveness now that is an interesting question? It could put them back in the cheap seats leaving Renault, Honda and Mclaren to duke it out for the championship. And that would be our (the viewers) loss.

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 12:17 am

Snowy wrote:The idea is to test the grey areas in the regs and if one team gets away with it then all the others follow suit. However it would appear that Farrari have had more than their fair share of luck when it comes to dealings with the FIA. I imagine that they didn't try very hard to win this race just in case, they wouldn't want to force the FIA's hand would they? What effect this is going to have on their competitiveness now that is an interesting question? It could put them back in the cheap seats leaving Renault, Honda and Mclaren to duke it out for the championship. And that would be our (the viewers) loss.

WILLIAMS ? I saw enough tonight to think that Williams might even sneak into 3rd for the :manchamp"

Snowy · Post by **Snowy** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 12:48 am

Julian Mayo wrote: WILLIAMS ? I saw enough tonight to think that Williams might even sneak into 3rd for the :manchamp"

Not going to happen is it? They will be left behind mid season and they were running very light. Jenson is nowhere near the pace of the Renault but still managed to be within a tenth of Fisi with two more laps of fuel. Once Rubinho gets his act together the grid is going to get tight and the Mclaren's are quick they just look cumbersome because of the fuel they carry. They are boud to be there or there abouts in a couple of GP's. And then there's reliability, Cosworth really needed to be reliable now before everbody else gets the budget making breakdowns a rarity.

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 1:37 am

Snowy wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote: WILLIAMS ? I saw enough tonight to think that Williams might even sneak into 3rd for the :manchamp"
Not going to happen is it? They will be left behind mid season and they were running very light. Jenson is nowhere near the pace of the Renault but still managed to be within a tenth of Fisi with two more laps of fuel. Once Rubinho gets his act together the grid is going to get tight and the Mclaren's are quick they just look cumbersome because of the fuel they carry. They are boud to be there or there abouts in a couple of GP's. And then there's reliability, Cosworth really needed to be reliable now before everbody else gets the budget making breakdowns a rarity.

If MW was running light he would be around Alonso in two laps. Briattore did not suck me in with his BS about fuel rigs, that was a deliberate." lets try something"......imho...here you go loyal Fisi....I suspect Renault are feeling confidant enuff about their vehicles to decide which driver wins.

Snowy · Post by **Snowy** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:41 am

Julian Mayo wrote: If MW was running light he would be around Alonso in two laps. Briattore did not suck me in with his BS about fuel rigs, that was a deliberate." lets try something"......imho...here you go loyal Fisi....I suspect Renault are feeling confidant enuff about their vehicles to decide which driver wins.

That thought had occured to me but I dismissed it, they really couldn't be that confident that kimi wasn't going to blast them into the weeds. He is still a bit of an unknown quantity and it would have been reckless to put a pole worthy car that far back on the grid, flying starts or no.

You only have to look at what happened to Kimi to see the lunacy of that strategy, covert or not.