Turkish Grand Prix - Live Commentary

Kapel · Post by **Kapel** » Sat Aug 20, 2005 5:58 pm

Hey ,completely forgot abt the BBQ parties v saw during early parts of the season.

BAR BBQ would be very nice for the kebabs in Turkey

Ed · Post by Ed » Sat Aug 20, 2005 5:58 pm

Just 3 cars in the pits!

Alonso moves into 3rd with a 1:26.627

Raikkonen improves in 1st with a 1:26.120

Ed · Post by Ed » Sat Aug 20, 2005 5:59 pm

Montoya starts a flyer now! He will only be able to do this lap as the session is nearly over!

Ed · Post by Ed » Sat Aug 20, 2005 6:00 pm

Montoya not as fast as Raikkonen!

Ed · Post by Ed » Sat Aug 20, 2005 6:01 pm

Montoya remains in 4th without improving!

Session over!

Ed · Post by Ed » Sat Aug 20, 2005 6:02 pm

Top 8: Raikkoinen, Button, Alonso, Montoya, Fisichella, Sato, Webber and R Schumacher

Karthikeyan didn't set a time in either sessions!

Full results

sgd · Post by **sgd** » Sat Aug 20, 2005 6:02 pm

Ed wrote:
sgd wrote:
Kapel wrote:Ferrari looks to be the 7 fastest car on track
Ah, the bridgestone melting already
it's not Bridgestone!! it it were the thyres you'd expect Jordan to be as far as usually from ferrari!!! and they are at the same pace!!
As I said earlier sgd Montiero may be running on low fuel as the team only have 1 car to practice with today (so far!)

1.Jordan in low-fuel never was ferrari-fast....
2.ferrari should not be with full tanks neither...

sgd · Post by **sgd** » Sat Aug 20, 2005 6:06 pm

You can't say it up to the tyres when the other temas with Bridgestone are running so good in comparision with their usual performance... Jordan just 2.7s off-pace (from a low-fuel McLaren) means bridgestone are in fact quite competitive!!

sgd · Post by **sgd** » Sat Aug 20, 2005 6:07 pm

Minardi 4s off is also very good for them...
now take into account that the Bridgestone tyres are 100% focused on Ferrari...

Ed · Post by Ed » Sat Aug 20, 2005 6:14 pm

sgd, I am not saying it is all down to Bridgestone but it does seem that the tyres are lacking grip.

The Jordan has been close to Minardi over the last few races so I doubt they have found 1.3 seconds all of a sudden!

It is all speculation though and qualifying may give us a better idea!

sgd · Post by **sgd** » Sat Aug 20, 2005 6:25 pm

Ed wrote:sgd, I am not saying it is all down to Bridgestone but it does seem that the tyres are lacking grip.

The Jordan has been close to Minardi over the last few races so I doubt they have found 1.3 seconds all of a sudden!

It is all speculation though and qualifying may give us a better idea!

My point is that for a Jordan be just 2.7off pace (and Minardi 4s) from a light McLaren is very good, so you have to agree that their tyres are performing quite good here. if the tyres were lacking so much grip Jordan inted of being closer to Michelline teams, should be slower (ussully they are ~3.8s off pace) .
I see it clear that the bridgestone are quite competitive here, you'll hve to find and other reason for the lack of pace (or grip or whatever) to Ferrari speed...

by the other hand, those were just practices... let's wait and see what can they do within 2 hours...

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Sat Aug 20, 2005 6:28 pm

Ed wrote:No action yet!

Sigh, I know that feeling

Ed · Post by Ed » Sat Aug 20, 2005 6:51 pm

sgd wrote:
Ed wrote:sgd, I am not saying it is all down to Bridgestone but it does seem that the tyres are lacking grip.

The Jordan has been close to Minardi over the last few races so I doubt they have found 1.3 seconds all of a sudden!

It is all speculation though and qualifying may give us a better idea!
My point is that for a Jordan be just 2.7off pace (and Minardi 4s) from a light McLaren is very good, so you have to agree that their tyres are performing quite good here. if the tyres were lacking so much grip Jordan inted of being closer to Michelline teams, should be slower (ussully they are ~3.8s off pace) .
I see it clear that the bridgestone are quite competitive here, you'll hve to find and other reason for the lack of pace (or grip or whatever) to Ferrari speed...

by the other hand, those were just practices... let's wait and see what can they do within 2 hours...

sgd, it is only practice and we cannot assume much from the times. The only thing that seems obvious is that all the Bridgestone runners are off the pace.

Comparing practice times causes headaches but if you go back to past Saturday practice sessions you'll see this:
In Hungary Albers was just 2.7 seconds off the pace
In Germany Albers was just 2.5 seconds off the pace
In Britain Montiero was 2 seconds off the pace

Were Bridgestone competitive at those races ?

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Sat Aug 20, 2005 7:03 pm

Ed wrote:
sgd wrote:
Ed wrote:sgd, I am not saying it is all down to Bridgestone but it does seem that the tyres are lacking grip.

The Jordan has been close to Minardi over the last few races so I doubt they have found 1.3 seconds all of a sudden!

It is all speculation though and qualifying may give us a better idea!
My point is that for a Jordan be just 2.7off pace (and Minardi 4s) from a light McLaren is very good, so you have to agree that their tyres are performing quite good here. if the tyres were lacking so much grip Jordan inted of being closer to Michelline teams, should be slower (ussully they are ~3.8s off pace) .
I see it clear that the bridgestone are quite competitive here, you'll hve to find and other reason for the lack of pace (or grip or whatever) to Ferrari speed...

by the other hand, those were just practices... let's wait and see what can they do within 2 hours...
sgd, it is only practice and we cannot assume much from the times. The only thing that seems obvious is that all the Bridgestone runners are off the pace.

Comparing practice times causes headaches but if you go back to past Saturday practice sessions you'll see this:
In Hungary Albers was just 2.7 seconds off the pace
In Germany Albers was just 2.5 seconds off the pace
In Britain Montiero was 2 seconds off the pace

Were Bridgestone competitive at those races ?

NO

Ed · Post by Ed » Sat Aug 20, 2005 7:56 pm

Qualifying for the Turkish Grand Prix starting shortly!

Air temperture is 30 degrees while track temperature is 42 degrees!