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Britain '17 Driver of the Day

Lewis Hamilton
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33%
Valtteri Bottas
1
33%
Kimi Raikkonen
0
No votes
Max Verstappen
0
No votes
Daniel Ricciardo
1
33%
Nico Hulkenberg
0
No votes
Other
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 3

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The 2017 British GP Thread

Post by cmlean » Tue Jul 11, 2017 7:53 pm

This is the place to discuss everything related to the 10th round of the 2017 season taking place in Silverstone between the 14th and 16th of July.

To submit your 10 'n' Pole Picks for Britain click here, to register in the competition click here

Picks for Britain close at the start of Saturday practice

The event timetable for the British Grand Prix.

Friday
1st Practice 09:00 local time - 08:00 GMT
2nd Practice 13:00 local time - 12:00 GMT

Saturday
Practice 10:00 local time - 09:00 GMT
Qualifying 13:00 local time - 12:00 GMT

Sunday
Race 13:00 local time - 12:00 GMT

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Re: The 2017 British GP Thread

Post by cmlean » Tue Jul 11, 2017 8:16 pm

This weekend sees the return to Silverstone for the running of the 72nd British Grand Prix. Fans will flock to the circuit to see if their hero, Lewis Hamilton, can achieve greatness by equaling the greats, Jim Clark and Alain Prost, in winning his 5th British GP.

England is also home to many Formula 1 teams so expect the best from them all.

Standing in Lewis' way will be the formidable duo of team mate, Valtteri Bottas, and Sebastian Vettel. Surprisingly, Seb has only won one British GP in all his attempts. Kimi, also a one time winner, could be in the running however I feel that he has conceded that he is second in the pecking order in Team Ferrari.

This track could also lend itself to the superb handling Red Bulls. It is just that slightly underpowered Renault engine may not be enough.

Will Hass continue their good form? Will Force India again get both cars into the top 10? Which Williams cars will turn up?

These questions and many more will be answered on Sunday.

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Re: The 2017 British GP Thread

Post by cmlean » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:08 pm

FP1 Results

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Pos	Time		Driver		  Team
1	01:29.106	Valtteri Bottas	  Mercedes
2	01:29.184	Lewis Hamilton	  Mercedes
3	01:29.604	Max Verstappen	  Red Bull Racing
4	01:29.942	Daniel Ricciardo  Red Bull Racing
5	01:30.137	Kimi Räikkönen	  Ferrari
6	01:30.517	Sebastian Vettel  Ferrari
7	01:30.895	Daniil Kvyat	  Toro Rosso
8	01:30.993	Fernando Alonso	  McLaren
9	01:30.999	Felipe Massa	  Williams
10	01:31.041	Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren
11	01:31.200	Carlos Sainz	  Toro Rosso
12	01:31.210	Esteban Ocon	  Force India
13	01:31.297	Sergio Perez	  Force India
14	01:31.610	Romain Grosjean	  Haas
15	01:31.684	Lance Stroll	  Williams
16	01:32.031	Antonio GiovinazziHaas
17	01:32.171	Nico Hulkenberg	  Renault
18	01:32.450	Jolyon Palmer	  Renault
19	01:33.029	Pascal Wehrlein	  Sauber
20	01:33.399	Marcus Ericsson	  Sauber
FP1 has concluded and nothing out of the ordinary happened.
Mercedes and Williams did their fastest laps on the soft tyres, all other teams were on the super softs.
Vettel flat spotted a set of tyres with a spin but this set will be returned to Pirelli as his Friday return set.

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Re: The 2017 British GP Thread

Post by cmlean » Sat Jul 15, 2017 7:16 am

FP2 Results

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Pos	Time		Driver		  Team
1	01:28.496	Valtteri Bottas	  Mercedes
2	01:28.543	Lewis Hamilton	  Mercedes
3	01:28.828	Kimi Räikkönen	  Ferrari
4	01:28.956	Sebastian Vettel  Ferrari
5	01:29.098	Max Verstappen	  Red Bull Racing
6	01:29.586	Daniel Ricciardo  Red Bull Racing
7	01:29.936	Nico Hulkenberg	  Renault
8	01:30.006	Felipe Massa	  Williams
9	01:30.238	Fernando Alonso	  McLaren
10	01:30.383	Esteban Ocon	  Force India
11	01:30.555	Carlos Sainz	  Toro Rosso
12	01:30.562	Daniil Kvyat	  Toro Rosso
13	01:30.624	Sergio Perez	  Force India
14	01:30.661	Romain Grosjean	  Haas
15	01:30.695	Lance Stroll	  Williams
16	01:30.782	Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren
17	01:30.835	Kevin Magnussen	  Haas
18	01:30.879	Jolyon Palmer	  Renault
19	01:31.616	Marcus Ericsson	  Sauber
20	01:31.929	Pascal Wehrlein	  Sauber
It looks like Bottas is about to suffer the same fate as Lewis in Austria in having to take a gearbox change. This will result in a 5 place grid penalty.

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Re: The 2017 British GP Thread

Post by cmlean » Sat Jul 15, 2017 4:36 pm

At this stage, it looks like both Alonso and Bottas will carry 5 grid place penalties into the start of tomorrows grand prix.

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Re: The 2017 British GP Thread

Post by cmlean » Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:50 am

FP3 Results

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Pos	Time		Driver		  Team
1	01:28.063	Lewis Hamilton	  Mercedes
2	01:28.095	Sebastian Vettel  Ferrari
3	01:28.137	Valtteri Bottas	  Mercedes
4	01:28.732	Kimi Räikkönen	  Ferrari
5	01:29.480	Nico Hulkenberg	  Renault
6	01:29.612	Daniel Ricciardo  Red Bull Racing
7	01:29.819	Romain Grosjean	  Haas
8	01:29.904	Max Verstappen	  Red Bull Racing
9	01:29.959	Felipe Massa	  Williams
10	01:30.088	Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren
11	01:30.138	Fernando Alonso	  McLaren
12	01:30.172	Esteban Ocon	  Force India
13	01:30.270	Kevin Magnussen	  Haas
14	01:30.302	Jolyon Palmer	  Renault
15	01:30.416	Sergio Perez	  Force India
16	01:30.504	Daniil Kvyat	  Toro Rosso
17	01:30.515	Carlos Sainz	  Toro Rosso
18	01:30.621	Pascal Wehrlein	  Sauber
19	01:30.630	Marcus Ericsson	  Sauber
20	01:31.358	Lance Stroll	  Williams

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Re: The 2017 British GP Thread

Post by cmlean » Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:08 am

Qualifying

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Pos	Time		Driver		  Team
1	01:26.600	Lewis Hamilton	  Mercedes
2	01:27.147	Kimi Räikkönen	  Ferrari
3	01:27.356	Sebastian Vettel  Ferrari
4	01:27.376	Valtteri Bottas	  Mercedes
5	01:28.130	Max Verstappen	  Red Bull Racing
6	01:28.856	Nico Hulkenberg	  Renault
7	01:28.902	Sergio Perez	  Force India
8	01:29.074	Esteban Ocon	  Force India
9	01:29.418	Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren
10	01:29.549	Romain Grosjean	  Haas
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11	01:30.193	Jolyon Palmer	  Renault
12	01:30.355	Daniil Kvyat	  Toro Rosso
13	01:30.600	Fernando Alonso	  McLaren
14	01:31.368	Carlos Sainz	  Toro Rosso
15	01:31.482	Felipe Massa	  Williams
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16	01:42.573	Lance Stroll	  Williams
17	01:42.577	Kevin Magnussen	  Haas
18	01:42.593	Pascal Wehrlein	  Sauber
19	01:42.633	Marcus Ericsson	  Sauber
20	01:42.966	Daniel Ricciardo  Red Bull Racing
Ricciardo suffered a turbo failure early in Q1. This, combined with his 5 place penalty for a gearbox change, will result in him starting in P19 ahead of Alonso who is also carrying many penalties for component changes.
Bottas also carries a 5 place grid penalty for a gearbox change which will drop him to P9.

Alonso tops Q1! In a masterstroke, Alonso changes from intermediates to supersofts at the last possible moment allowing him to start his final lap a fraction of a second before the end of Q1. This charge by Alonso then dropped Stroll out of P15 into the group to not progress into Q2.

Hamilton came under investigation in Q3 for a possible block on Grosjean. This was later dismissed.

The grid should look like Hamilton, Raikkonen, Vettel, Verstappen, Hulkenberg, Perez, Ocon, Vandoorne, Bottas, Grosjean, Palmer, Kvyat, Sainz, Massa, Stroll, Magnussen, Wehrlein, Ericsson, Ricciardo, Alonso.

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Re: The 2017 British GP Thread

Post by cmlean » Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:10 pm

Results

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Pos	Driver		  Team
1	Lewis Hamilton	  Mercedes
2	Valtteri Bottas	  Mercedes
3	Kimi Räikkönen	  Ferrari
4	Max Verstappen	  Red Bull Racing
5	Daniel Ricciardo  Red Bull Racing
6	Nico Hulkenberg	  Renault
7	Sebastian Vettel  Ferrari
8	Esteban Ocon	  Force India
9	Sergio Perez	  Force India
10	Felipe Massa	  Williams 
11	Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren
12	Kevin Magnussen	  Haas 
13	Romain Grosjean	  Haas
14	Marcus Ericsson	  Sauber
15	Daniil Kvyat	  Toro Rosso
16	Lance Stroll	  Williams
17	Pascal Wehrlein	  Sauber
DNF	Fernando Alonso	  McLaren
DNF	Carlos Sainz	  Toro Rosso
DNS	Jolyon Palmer	  Renault
Well, that was some climax to an entertaining race. Both Ferrari's running out of tyres near the end, Toro Rosso's taking each other out and a superb charge from the rear of field by Daniel Ricciardo to finish 5th. It could have been so much better considering he was up to 10th before his excursion back to 18th when he resumed his chase.

No points for guessing who my driver of the day was.

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Re: The 2017 British GP Thread

Post by Tim » Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:03 pm

What a race!

This is how all F1 races should be, wheel to wheel racing, plenty of overtaking and drivers, cars and tyres being pushed to the limit!

Hamilton drove a stunning race, no one could touch him all weekend, no mistakes and handling pressure despite this being his 4th win at Silverstone in a row and the 5th overall. He gets my driver of the day.

Bottas did well too and pushed Vettel and forced him into that huge lockup that certainly contributed to his tyre failure. He was also helped into second when Raikkonen's tyre failed!

Ricciardo was brilliant as well, starting in 19th and finishing 5th! He probably did the most overtaking of everyone.

The championship fight is down to just one point but it feels that Mercedes have the upper hand again. Lets hope Ferrari can keep up the fight!

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Re: The 2017 British GP Thread

Post by Thaddeus » Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:20 pm

I agree with that assessment. Ferrari have had a few relatively weak races in a row now (one caused by misfortune in the UK, another by Vettel being a silly sod in Azerbaijan. Cost himself a bundle of points there). I want things to stay tight, so a better Ferrari result would be good. Corners are slower than Silverstone so that should help out the Prancing Horse in Hungary.

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