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Drivers deliberately not finishing a race

Post by JayVee » Thu Mar 03, 2005 9:47 am

The new engine rules allow a driver to use a new engine if the car fails to finish the race.

Doesn't this mean all the cars not finishing in the points will just park their cars on the final lap and get a new engine for next race ?

Aparently Charlie Whiting beleives teams won't do it as the order in the championship could get decided on order of finish.

I don't agree as the advantage of having a fresh engine could get that driver into the points. I think we'll see a mass of cars parked on the side on the final lap and that is ridiculous :evil:
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Post by Graham Ross » Thu Mar 03, 2005 1:00 pm

I agree this sucks!

But perhaps this could lead to changing the points system and award the first 12 rather than the first 8 :?:

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Post by sgd » Thu Mar 03, 2005 2:12 pm

Graham Ross wrote:I agree this sucks!

But perhaps this could lead to changing the points system and award the first 12 rather than the first 8 :?:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
could besomething like this:
for the 1st: 50pts
2dn:40pts
3rd:30pts
...
20th:1point
so race till the end!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Julian Mayo » Thu Mar 03, 2005 2:16 pm

As long as we don't end up with the mess V8 supercars are in :?
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Post by Kapel » Thu Mar 03, 2005 3:10 pm

I agree Graham points system will have to change to avoid something like this,but can the FIA change the point scoring system in the middle of the season???
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Post by Julian Mayo » Thu Mar 03, 2005 3:48 pm

They have changed a lot of other things mid-season, but I suspect the drivers may lynch them if they tried that.... Yahoo Agra! :lol:
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Post by Kapel » Thu Mar 03, 2005 4:00 pm

Julian u never know with Mosely,he can even come up with this change like all the stupid changes he's done this year....NO V8's pls :cry:
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Post by Julian Mayo » Thu Mar 03, 2005 5:10 pm

What's wrong with V8s :?: :danger: :D
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Post by Kapel » Thu Mar 03, 2005 5:51 pm

The idea is to go faster not slower...V8 is going backwards :cry:
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Post by Julian Mayo » Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:01 pm

Sorry Kapel, I was referring to a class of motor racing in Australia called V8Supercars ie touring cars, tin tops etc, my apologies for intrducing a profanity to the forum :oops:
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Post by Kapel » Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:08 pm

Hey Julian,
No apologise here dude..chill..Just discussion(or arguement)
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Post by Graham Ross » Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:27 pm

julian mayo wrote:my apologies for intrducing a profanity to the forum :oops:
:crush: :rolling: :ROTFLMAO: :crush:

Perhaps you can get Ed to start a V8 forum :idea:

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Post by Julian Mayo » Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:34 pm

dtm vs v8 supercars, now theres a thought :lol:
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Post by JayVee » Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:07 pm

Just read the Toyota preview of Malaysia and even though I've bagged Toyota for their lack of performance over the years I respect them highly for opting to stick with the rules and not exploit them like BAR and Ferrari did. (Sure the FIA should fix their rules but it is good to see teams playing fair too!)

There also seems to be a gentlemans agreement regarding this :shock:

In the Q & A part this is what Luca Marmorini said

Is the new engine regulation strict enough in your point of view?
There is still a grey area in the 2005 engine regulations, whereby a driver can come into the pits before the end of the race, effectively retiring a problem-free car, and then be permitted to change the engine for the next race.

What is Toyota's opinion on such loopholes?
Toyota is against the existence of such loopholes in technical regulations. Toyota fully accepted the spirit and intention of the new two race, one engine regulation. We gave the chance for the team to run in all four free practice sessions in Australia, not only because it is important to learn the car's behaviour at the track, but also because our participation in all sessions over the weekend is part of the F1 show. Even though our drivers did not score any points in the race, we decided to pass the chequered flag out of respect for the spirit of the new rules. This obviously increases the chance of having an engine failure in Malaysia, but this is what we understand by the concept of racing.

Is this why Ralf Schumacher's engine was not changed after qualifying in Australia?
Yes - Ralf's qualifying was massively negated by the bad weather and left him near the back of the grid. It would have been easier to change the engine in those conditions with a comparatively minimal penalty, but to do this, especially in the first race, is not acceptable in our opinion. During the course of the season, we may change an engine if there are doubts or issues technically, but we should avoid it wherever possibly as part of the gentleman's agreement that was accepted before the season started.

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Post by VTEC » Wed Mar 16, 2005 6:08 am

Even though I am a Honda fan I was angry with what they did in Australia.

Yes Toyota did the right thing but the loopholes must be closed

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