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Post by Graham Ross » Wed Feb 16, 2005 1:06 pm

Its a worry how a foreign object can get jammed between the brake caliper and the wheel rim ? Did they forget a spanner ?

I recall one year DC had a loose screw or something in the cockpit during a race!!

It looks increasingly like we'll have a fight between McLaren and Renault this year :wink:

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Post by Ed » Thu Feb 17, 2005 6:34 am

Day 2 from Barcelona - Fisichella betters Alonso's time from yesterday!

Driver Team Total Laps Best Lap Time
Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 87 36 1:14.408
Ricardo Zonta Toyota 91 20 1.14.502
Fernando Alonso Renault 75 13 1:14.552
Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren 119 94 1:15.199
David Coulthard Red Bull Racing 116 91 1:15.372
Christian Klien Red Bull Racing 80 35 1:15.673
Mark Webber Williams 70 30 1:15.841
Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 116 56 1.15.912
Jarno Trulli Toyota 122 116 1.16.043
Nick Heidfeld Williams 94 93 1.16.077
Pedro de la Rosa McLaren 63 62 1.16.133
Michael Schumacher Ferrari 76 70 1.16.188
Narain Karthikeyan Jordan 76 73 1:19.179
Tiago Monteiro Jordan 32 19 1:19.718

All cars 05 spec except Monteiro in modified EJ14 (most of the day) and Zonta in a modified TF104

Test times as reported by the Barcelona circuit ... more

BAR continued testing privately at Valencia. No times reported today
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Post by Ed » Thu Feb 17, 2005 6:53 am

Lap by lap timing for the top 4 drivers from Barcelona (stint with fastest lap only).

Fisichella
Lap Time Gap Day time
18 25:32.247 + 24:13,668 10:33
19 1:17.698 - 24:14,549 10:35
20 1:16.190 - 1,508 10:36
21 1:17.266 + 1,076 10:37
22 1:19.485 + 2,219 10:39
23 1:16.516 - 2,969 10:40
24 1:15.774 - 0,742 10:41
25 1:15.539 - 0,235 10:42
26 1:15.647 + 0,108 10:44
27 1:15.572 - 0,075 10:45
28 1:19.875 + 4,303 10:46
29 1:15.853 - 4,022 10:47
30 1:18.892 + 3,039 10:49
31 1:18.874 - 0,018 10:50
32 1:15.629 - 3,245 10:51
33 1:14.675 - 0,954 10:53
34 1:15.900 + 1,225 10:54
35 1:14.792 - 1,108 10:55
36 1:14.408 - 0,384 10:56
37 1:17.673 >B + 3,265 10:58

Zonta
Lap Time Gap Day time
13 14:35.801 + 13:16,396 10:36
14 1:21.483 - 13:14,318 10:37
15 1:18.821 - 2,662 10:38
16 1:16.141 - 2,680 10:40
17 1:15.201 - 0,940 10:41
18 1:14.720 - 0,481 10:42
19 1:15.172 + 0,452 10:43
20 1:14.502 - 0,670 10:45
21 1:24.054 >B + 9,552 10:46

Alonso
Lap Time Gap Day time
12 10:30.617 + 9:11,775 11:40
13 1:14.552 - 9:16,065 11:41
14 1:16.912 >B + 2,360 11:42

Montoya
Lap Time Gap Day time
87 25:16.566 + 23:56,388 16:09
88 1:18.904 - 23:57,662 16:10
89 1:16.822 - 2,082 16:11
90 1:16.198 - 0,624 16:13
91 1:16.972 + 0,774 16:14
92 1:16.533 - 0,439 16:15
93 1:18.923 + 2,390 16:16
94 1:15.199 - 3,724 16:18
95 1:17.924 >B + 2,725 16:19

You can access the data for each driver at the Catalunya Circuit website (select language then click on the link under F1-Tests on the right hand side.
Alternatively, we have made available a lap by lap pdf file for all the drivers here(provided by Circuit de Catalunya)

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Post by VTEC » Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:23 am

Well done to Renault. If they aren't showing their full potential, the other teams must be getting worried. The new car seems faster than the old one despite the rules :shock:

Would've been nice to see BAR at this test too!

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Post by Julian Mayo » Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:24 am

To my way of thinking , this highlights how inconclusive testing results are, for those of us who don't know what the targets and goals of the teams are. The ferrari times are, from memory, ominously like last year. :wtf:

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Post by VTEC » Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:37 am

Sure testing is inconclusive but with lap details you can tell if the lap was on low fuel/new tires etc. Look at Fisichella, just half a second from the lap record and his time was at the end of a reasonable run.
What you can conclude from the times Renault have set at various testing tracks this year that their new car is faster than the old one which goes against what the rules aimed for and it tells us that they have made a huge leap forward.

Besides, there is no reason to beleive that Renault are showing their full potential while the others aren't. They are not after sponsors like some of the other teams :wink:

Don't recall Ferrari being this slow last year

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Post by 350Z » Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:43 am

I see McLaren very strong too and we could see a fight between those two teams. Wouldn't that be a nice change.

julian is still suffering from FerrariBlues :shock:
The Montoya/Raikkonen battle is on!

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Post by VTEC » Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:57 am

julian mayo wrote:The ferrari times are, from memory, ominously like last year
Just looked up times from last year from the Catalunya website. The last test Ferrari participated in was in early Feb. Barrichello wasn't that far off:

F. Alonso Renault (M) 1:14.665
R. Schumacher Williams (M)1:14.679
J. Button BAR (B)1:14.699
M. Gen? Williams (M)1:14.997
R. Barrichello Ferrari (B)1:15.058
F. Montagny Renault (M)1:15.288

Ferrari weren't 1.5 seconds off the pace and of those teams only Renault has improved.

This is encouraging from a season perspective to say the least

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Post by JayVee » Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:02 am

Julian won't be convinced until Melbourne and then maybe

His fear of Ferrari is equal to his optimisim for Webber :lol:

(Light) Blue, Yellow and Silver at the front .... that's a change for sure

2 weeks to go till practice :bouncec:
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Post by Graham Ross » Thu Feb 17, 2005 1:04 pm

It would be worrying if Renault dominated this year but I doubt that to be the case. I think McLaren and BAR will be up there and possibly Williams. Ferrari will be strong too but it depends on how good their Bridgestone tyres are. Toyota are setting good times but read somewhere they are with the old car!

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Post by Ed » Fri Feb 18, 2005 6:09 am

Day 3 from Barcelona - de la Rosa fastest, Ferrari improve

Driver Team Total Laps Best Lap Time
Pedro de la Rosa McLaren 112 51 1.14.542
Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 121 68 1:14.608
Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 111 36 1.14.641
Michael Schumacher Ferrari 78 42 1.14.920
Christian Klien Red Bull Racing 46 23 1:14.982
Fernando Alonso Renault 104 68 1:15.021
David Coulthard Red Bull Racing 76 35 1:15.094
Nick Heidfeld Williams 78 28 1.15.578
Vitantonio Liuzzi Red Bull Racing 82 76 1:15.656
Antonio Pizzonia Williams 99 93 1:15.794
Ralf Schumacher Toyota 82 53 1.16.281
Narain Karthikeyan Jordan 74 73 1:17.589
Tiago Monteiro Jordan 43 25 1:18.372

All cars 05 spec

Test times as reported by the Barcelona circuit ... more

BAR concluded their private test at Valencia. No times reported today

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Post by Ed » Fri Feb 18, 2005 6:16 am

Lap by lap timing for the top 4 drivers from Barcelona - Day 3 (stint with fastest lap only).

de la Rosa
Lap Time Gap Day time
49 10:24.682 + 9:05,550 12:53
50 1:14.974 - 9:09,708 12:54
51 1:14.542 - 0,432 12:56
52 1:17.511 >B + 2,969 12:57

Fisichella
Lap Time Gap Day time
48 11:41.505 + 10:21,654 11:40
49 1:17.070 - 10:24,435 11:41
50 1:16.446 - 0,624 11:42
51 1:16.627 + 0,181 11:44
52 1:16.072 - 0,555 11:45
53 1:16.180 + 0,108 11:46
54 1:15.846 - 0,334 11:47
55 1:15.758 - 0,088 11:49
56 1:15.805 + 0,047 11:50
57 1:15.865 + 0,060 11:51
58 1:15.732 - 0,133 11:52
59 1:15.801 + 0,069 11:54
60 1:15.653 - 0,148 11:55
61 1:16.215 + 0,562 11:56
62 1:15.531 - 0,684 11:57
63 1:15.298 - 0,233 11:59
64 1:15.079 - 0,219 12:00
65 1:15.086 + 0,007 12:01
66 1:14.936 - 0,150 12:02
67 1:14.725 - 0,211 12:04
68 1:14.608 - 0,117 12:05
69 1:16.959 >B + 2,351 12:06

Barrichello
Lap Time Gap Day time
19 15:01.258 + 13:34,639 11:44
20 1:20.049 - 13:41,209 11:45
21 1:17.718 - 2,331 11:46
22 1:16.759 - 0,959 11:48
23 1:16.808 + 0,049 11:49
24 1:16.719 - 0,089 11:50
25 1:16.491 - 0,228 11:52
26 1:16.535 + 0,044 11:53
27 1:16.657 + 0,122 11:54
28 1:16.402 - 0,255 11:55
29 1:15.970 - 0,432 11:57
30 1:16.188 + 0,218 11:58
31 1:15.601 - 0,587 11:59
32 1:15.589 - 0,012 12:00
33 1:15.344 - 0,245 12:02
34 1:15.174 - 0,170 12:03
35 1:14.849 - 0,325 12:04
36 1:14.641 - 0,208 12:05
37 1:19.645 >B + 5,004 12:07

M Schumacher
Lap Time Gap Day time
30 15:55.891 + 14:36,973 12:30
31 1:17.552 - 14:38,339 12:32
32 1:16.357 - 1,195 12:33
33 1:16.356 - 0,001 12:34
34 1:16.113 - 0,243 12:35
35 1:15.799 - 0,314 12:37
36 1:16.093 + 0,294 12:38
37 1:15.610 - 0,483 12:39
38 1:15.387 - 0,223 12:40
39 1:15.185 - 0,202 12:42
40 1:15.117 - 0,068 12:43
41 1:14.974 - 0,143 12:44
42 1:14.920 - 0,054 12:45
43 1:17.933 >B + 3,013 12:47


You can access the data for each driver at the Catalunya Circuit website (select language then click on the link under F1-Tests on the right hand side.
Alternatively, we have made available a lap by lap pdf file for all the drivers here(provided by Circuit de Catalunya)

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Post by Julian Mayo » Fri Feb 18, 2005 6:18 am

Hmmm, Narain faster than Monteiro, and here come the Ferraris :crush:

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Post by JayVee » Fri Feb 18, 2005 8:49 am

So the Ferraris are faster than what I hoped for but we'd be fooling ourselves if we thought the Ferraris will be seriously slow (I was just being extremely optimistic :wink: )

But still both Renault and McLaren are looking good, again no reason to beleive that Ferrari are sandbagging but Renault and McLaren aren't

Fisichella's best time was made on a long(er) run than both Ferraris and his average time is better too.

I am sure that we will have an exciting start to the season after all those years.

My worry is Williams and all the hype around Webber. They seem to be struggling in the midfield.

Narain has outpaced Tiago on all days. He must be the quickest Indian on wheels (or Tiago may be the slowest Portugese on wheels :ROTFLMAO: )
I'm back and yes supporting Alonso "The Cute" in the Ferrari!

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Post by FerrariFan#1 » Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:54 pm

Barrichello and Schumacher 3rd and 4th fastest. When Schumacher said he wasn't worried he meant it. They'll dominate in Melbourne AGAIN :D
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(1999 - 2004)
The 7th in 2005

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