Pre-Season Testing

JayVee · Post by **JayVee** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 12:42 pm

I sure hope he becomes a World Champ. Australia needs one after all those years but I don't beleive it will be this year.
Was just following on with your optimistic assumption

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 1:21 pm

I seem to recall that A.J. was given little chance by the experts , the year he took the title in the Williams

Graham Ross · Post by **Graham Ross** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 5:41 pm

You're at it again julian! I just hope you won't be dissappointed with the Williams come Melbourne

Jonesy won the title with Williams in his third year if I remember rightly. Webber could be better and win it in his second year

Back to testing and this week will be the best indication yet of who is quick as they test in Barcelona (I think)

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 6:16 pm

well Graham, you have forecast that the bridgestone shod ferraris are going to be skating off, the renaults dont have the pilots, the bars are going to hand grenade, the saubers are too slow, the toyotas are too slow and lack the pilots,who should I be worried about. Oh, the Mclarens. One pilot spends his time getting smashed in night clubs, and exposing himself; the other is described in these threads as being dangerous to himself and others. So perhaps I have reason for what I freely acknowledge as extreme optimism. I have seen the guy do things in a car that had the hairs standing on the back of my neck, and guys like the cowangie kid( the original stoneface) were applauding. Still perhaps I should be worried about JV

alonsofan · Post by **alonsofan** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 7:24 pm

not gonna take you seriously and just want to remind you that the guy in the renault in 3 seasons had 1 win, 3 pole, 1 fastest lap, 8 podium and 114 points

your hero has 0 win, 0 pole, 0 fastest lap, 0 podium and 26 points in his 3 season

you can dream until melbourne comes then you'll have a nightmare

JayVee · Post by **JayVee** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 7:32 pm

Julian must be back on that Turkey stuff again

Your nightmare may indeed be Webber fighting with JV

Wonder what picks Julian will have for Melbourne!!

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 8:18 pm

webber
barrichello
sato
heidfield
alonso
kimi
Montoya
coulthard
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.JV
pole, Button

JayVee · Post by **JayVee** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:11 pm

interesting picks, wonder how they'll change as we get closer

JV may go up

Ed · Post by Ed » Tue Feb 15, 2005 6:22 am

F1 teams test schedule for this week and into next:

Barcelona:
15 - 17: Ferrari, Renault, Williams, McLaren, Red Bull, Toyota, Jordan
18: Williams, Toyota, Jordan

Valencia:
14: Ferrari
15 - 17: BAR

Imola:
19: Sauber, Toyota, Minardi
20: Sauber, Toyota
21: Ferrari, Sauber, Toyota
22: Ferrari, Toyota
23: Ferrari

For all the team announcements check out the Formula 1 Team News page

350Z · Post by **350Z** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 11:37 am

julian mayo wrote:the bridgestone shod ferraris are going to be skating off, the renaults dont have the pilots, the bars are going to hand grenade, the saubers are too slow, the toyotas are too slow and lack the pilots,who should I be worried about. Oh, the Mclarens. One pilot spends his time getting smashed in night clubs, and exposing himself; the other is described in these threads as being dangerous to himself and others.

That's harsh!

Besides the new Williams hasn't been breaking records

In this day and age you have to be really good (I agree that Webber is) with a really good car (I doubt the Williams is) to have a chance

julian mayo wrote:I freely acknowledge as extreme optimism.

That I fully agree with

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 4:03 pm

Hey 350z, I'm only quoting what others have written in the various threads, and newspaper articles about Kimmi

Ed · Post by Ed » Wed Feb 16, 2005 7:23 am

Day 1 from Barcelona - Alonso goes fastest this year! Raikkonen crashed heavily. He is OK

Driver Team Total Laps Best Lap Time
Fernando Alonso Renault 110 68 1:14.991
Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren 82 27 1:15.227
Ricardo Zonta Toyota 83 79 1.15.374
Kimi Raikkonen McLaren 71 68 1.15.404
Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 63 61 1:15.648
David Coulthard Red Bull Racing 92 91 1:15.713
Vitantonio Liuzzi Red Bull Racing 70 61 1:16.143
Mark Webber Williams 92 89 1:16.509
Jarno Trulli Toyota 97 64 1.16.551
Michael Schumacher Ferrari 101 100 1.16.639
Antonio Pizzonia Williams 54 38 1.16.726
Narain Karthikeyan Jordan 81 62 1:20.029
Tiago Monteiro Jordan 86 65 1:22.076

All cars 05 spec except Monteiro in modified EJ14 and and Zonta in a modified TF104

Test times as reported by the Barcelona circuit ... more
Note: McLaren reported the times by their two drivers reversed

Day 1 from Valencia - BAR Private test

Driver Team Total Laps Best Lap
Jenson Button BAR Honda 111 1:11.54 (BAR007)
Takuma Sato BAR Honda 138 1:12.83 (BAR006)

As reported by BAR

Ed · Post by Ed » Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:22 am

The Barcelona circuit provides lap by lap timing for each driver.
Here are the stints for the top 4 drivers when their fastest lap was recorded:

Alonso
Lap Time Gap Day time
60 4:58.750 + 3:41,521 15:08
61 1:17.866 - 3:40,884 15:09
62 1:15.930 - 1,936 15:10
63 1:15.604 - 0,326 15:11
64 1:16.196 + 0,592 15:13
65 1:15.380 - 0,816 15:14
66 1:15.901 + 0,521 15:15
67 1:15.358 - 0,543 15:17
68 1:14.991 - 0,367 15:18
69 1:19.345 >B + 4,354 15:19

Montoya
Lap Time Gap Day time
26 10:03.096 + 8:36,444 13:54
27 1:15.227 - 8:47,869 13:55
28 1:30.537 >B + 15,310 13:57

Zonta
Lap Time Gap Day time
77 23:36.028 + 22:11,438 14:59
78 1:20.160 - 22:15,868 15:01
79 1:15.374 - 4,786 15:02
80 1:23.570 + 8,196 15:03
81 1:16.328 - 7,242 15:05
82 1:15.463 - 0,865 15:06
83 1:21.582 >B + 6,119 15:07

Raikkonen (fastest time 3 laps prior his crash)
Lap Time Gap Day time
56 10:30.460 + 9:04,793 16:08
57 1:18.098 - 9:12,362 16:09
58 1:17.478 - 0,620 16:11
59 1:17.537 + 0,059 16:12
60 1:16.689 - 0,848 16:13
61 1:16.667 - 0,022 16:14
62 1:16.559 - 0,108 16:16
63 1:16.515 - 0,044 16:17
64 1:17.391 + 0,876 16:18
65 1:16.303 - 1,088 16:19
66 1:15.683 - 0,620 16:21
67 1:19.101 + 3,418 16:22
68 1:15.404 - 3,697 16:23
69 1:16.003 + 0,599 16:25
70 1:16.061 + 0,058 16:26
71 1:22.735 >B + 6,674 16:27

You can access the data for each driver at the Catalunya Circuit website (select language then click on the link under F1-Tests on the right hand side.
Alternatively, we have made available a lap by lap pdf file for all the drivers here (provided by Circuit de Catalunya)

alonsofan · Post by **alonsofan** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:45 am

alonso set record in new car on the very first day. it is looking very good

mclaren look good too, toyota maybe ?

JayVee · Post by **JayVee** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 11:03 am

The Renault is certainly looking good and Alonso is superfast and the time wasn't even a qualifying run like Montoya (thanks for the detail times Ed!)

Raikkonen is looking good too. His fastest time was during a long stint which means he could go faster unlike Montoya's lap. Crash doesn't seem to be his fault so McLaren reliability remains a question

Webber and Schumacher still foxing! NOT

Webber looks like he was running short stints but he is 1.5 seconds slower than Alonso

Michael is struggling big time by the looks of things. Did many very short stints, I reckon he isn't happy at all with setup. Many of his runs show him going slower by the lap. Tyres ?