The 2017 Austrian GP Thread
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The 2017 Austrian GP Thread
This is the place to discuss everything related to the 9th round of the 2017 season taking place in Spielberg, Austria between the 7th and 9th of July.
To submit your 10 'n' Pole Picks for Austria click here, to register in the competition click here
Picks for Austria close at the start of Saturday practice.
The event timetable for the Austrian Grand Prix.
Friday
Practice 1 10:00 local time - 08:00 GMT
Practice 2 14:00 local time - 12:00 GMT
Saturday
Practice 3 11:00 local time - 09:00 GMT
Qualifying 14:00 local time - 12:00 GMT
Sunday
Race 14:00 local time - 12:00 GMT
To submit your 10 'n' Pole Picks for Austria click here, to register in the competition click here
Picks for Austria close at the start of Saturday practice.
The event timetable for the Austrian Grand Prix.
Friday
Practice 1 10:00 local time - 08:00 GMT
Practice 2 14:00 local time - 12:00 GMT
Saturday
Practice 3 11:00 local time - 09:00 GMT
Qualifying 14:00 local time - 12:00 GMT
Sunday
Race 14:00 local time - 12:00 GMT
Re: The 2017 Austrian GP Thread
This weekend we return to the 'Red Bull Ring' in Spielberg, Austria.
This circuit is another which lends itself to the more powerful engines of Mercedes and Ferrari.
This leads me to my predictions for the weekend.
1st Lewis Hamilton - Mercedes. Lewis showed in Azerbaijan that he still has the drive to win yet another WDC.
2nd Valtteri Bottas - Mercedes. Bottas is on a roll at the moment. the fine second after being a lap down show how he has adapted to his car.
3rd Sebastian Vettel - Ferrari. May have gotten over his race rage incident with Hamilton.
4th Daniel Ricciardo - Red Bull. He is really on top of his game and needs to show young Max who's boss.
5th Kimi Raikkonen - Ferrari. Kimi just fails to impress me. Unless the car is perfect, mediocrity seems to prevail.
6th. Max Verstappen - Red Bull. This kid is really quick. Machinery seems to let him down.
7th Filipe Massa - Williams. Time to bounce back.
8th Sergio Perez - Force India. This team and driver combination is the major improver for 2017.
9th Carlos Sainz - Toro Rosso. He just needs something under him to show his true talent.
10th Esteban Ocon - Force India. Just seems to gather points but this time will be in the small variety.
I have left out Lance Stroll, Nico Hulkenberg and the Hass drivers as I don't feel this circuit will suit them.
I would also like to add the McLarens but they will be too far down on power.
This circuit is another which lends itself to the more powerful engines of Mercedes and Ferrari.
This leads me to my predictions for the weekend.
1st Lewis Hamilton - Mercedes. Lewis showed in Azerbaijan that he still has the drive to win yet another WDC.
2nd Valtteri Bottas - Mercedes. Bottas is on a roll at the moment. the fine second after being a lap down show how he has adapted to his car.
3rd Sebastian Vettel - Ferrari. May have gotten over his race rage incident with Hamilton.
4th Daniel Ricciardo - Red Bull. He is really on top of his game and needs to show young Max who's boss.
5th Kimi Raikkonen - Ferrari. Kimi just fails to impress me. Unless the car is perfect, mediocrity seems to prevail.
6th. Max Verstappen - Red Bull. This kid is really quick. Machinery seems to let him down.
7th Filipe Massa - Williams. Time to bounce back.
8th Sergio Perez - Force India. This team and driver combination is the major improver for 2017.
9th Carlos Sainz - Toro Rosso. He just needs something under him to show his true talent.
10th Esteban Ocon - Force India. Just seems to gather points but this time will be in the small variety.
I have left out Lance Stroll, Nico Hulkenberg and the Hass drivers as I don't feel this circuit will suit them.
I would also like to add the McLarens but they will be too far down on power.
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FP1 Results
FP1 is in the history books and the track is slippery. More laps and more rubber down should fix this.
Max Verstappen has the only notable incident running over the trap and clipping the wall at turn 8.
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Pos Time Driver Team
1 01:05.975 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes
2 01:06.165 Max Verstappen Red Bull Racing
3 01:06.345 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes
4 01:06.424 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari
5 01:06.620 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull Racing
6 01:06.848 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari
7 01:07.283 Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren
8 01:07.437 Daniil Kvyat Toro Rosso
9 01:07.510 Fernando Alonso McLaren
10 01:07.511 Esteban Ocon Force India
11 01:07.550 Felipe Massa Williams
12 01:07.594 Kevin Magnussen Haas
13 01:07.633 Carlos Sainz Toro Rosso
14 01:07.649 Jolyon Palmer Renault
15 01:08.041 Lance Stroll Williams
16 01:08.074 Romain Grosjean Haas
17 01:08.586 Sergey Sirotkin Renault
18 01:09.280 Alfonso Celis Force India
19 01:09.323 Pascal Wehrlein Sauber
20 01:10.853 Marcus Ericsson Sauber
Max Verstappen has the only notable incident running over the trap and clipping the wall at turn 8.
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FP2 Results
The track is slowly rubbering in but there were still quite a few minor incidents in the session.
Most involved small spins and track offs. Most notable offs were by Bottas, Ericsson and Sainz.
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Pos Time Driver Team
1 01:05.483 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes
2 01:05.630 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari
3 01:05.699 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes
4 01:05.832 Max Verstappen Red Bull Racing
5 01:05.873 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull Racing
6 01:06.144 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari
7 01:06.591 Kevin Magnussen Haas
8 01:06.732 Fernando Alonso McLaren
9 01:06.735 Nico Hulkenberg Renault
10 01:06.763 Romain Grosjean Haas
11 01:06.849 Esteban Ocon Force India
12 01:06.859 Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren
13 01:06.906 Daniil Kvyat Toro Rosso
14 01:07.065 Felipe Massa Williams
15 01:07.100 Carlos Sainz Toro Rosso
16 01:07.468 Lance Stroll Williams
17 01:07.509 Sergio Perez Force India
18 01:07.623 Jolyon Palmer Renault
19 01:08.782 Pascal Wehrlein Sauber
20 01:08.870 Marcus Ericsson Sauber
Most involved small spins and track offs. Most notable offs were by Bottas, Ericsson and Sainz.
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FP3 Results
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Pos Time Driver Team
1 01:05.092 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari
2 01:05.361 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes
3 01:05.515 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes
4 01:05.611 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari
5 01:05.784 Max Verstappen Red Bull Racing
6 01:05.896 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull Racing
7 01:05.936 Kevin Magnussen Haas
8 01:06.015 Romain Grosjean Haas
9 01:06.279 Daniil Kvyat Toro Rosso
10 01:06.284 Carlos Sainz Toro Rosso
11 01:06.374 Esteban Ocon Force India
12 01:06.563 Nico Hulkenberg Renault
13 01:06.578 Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren
14 01:06.595 Jolyon Palmer Renault
15 01:06.599 Fernando Alonso McLaren
16 01:06.776 Lance Stroll Williams
17 01:06.865 Felipe Massa Williams
18 01:06.875 Sergio Perez Force India
19 01:07.378 Marcus Ericsson Sauber
20 01:07.468 Pascal Wehrlein Sauber
Re: The 2017 Austrian GP Thread
Qualifying
Hamilton takes a 5 grid position penalty into this race for a gearbox change and will start from P8. Raikkonen, Ricciardo, Verstappen, Grosjean and Perez all move up 1 grid position as a result of his penalty.
Biggest disappointment would have to go to he Williams duo. Their cars have been so tail happy all weekend and both fail to get out of Q1.
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Pos Time Driver Team
1 01:04.251 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes
2 01:04.293 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari
3 01:04.424 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes
4 01:04.779 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari
5 01:04.896 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull Racing
6 01:04.983 Max Verstappen Red Bull Racing
7 01:05.480 Romain Grosjean Haas
8 01:05.605 Sergio Perez Force India
9 01:05.674 Esteban Ocon Force India
10 01:05.726 Carlos Sainz Toro Rosso
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11 01:05.597 Nico Hulkenberg Renault
12 01:05.602 Fernando Alonso McLaren
13 01:05.741 Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren
14 01:05.884 Daniil Kvyat Toro Rosso
15 No Time Kevin Magnussen Haas
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16 01:06.345 Jolyon Palmer Renault
17 01:06.534 Felipe Massa Williams
18 01:06.608 Lance Stroll Williams
19 01:06.857 Marcus Ericsson Sauber
20 01:07.011 Pascal Wehrlein Sauber
Biggest disappointment would have to go to he Williams duo. Their cars have been so tail happy all weekend and both fail to get out of Q1.
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Results
Well. What an exciting finish to the race with Vettel almost hunting down Bottas and Hamilton almost getting home over Ricciardo.
Watching the race, after the demolition derby in turn 1 with Kvyat barrelling into both Alonso and Verstappen, then Ricciardo and his pass on Raikkonen into turn 2, it then settled down into a tactical battle with not too many on track passes. Maybe this was a sign of things to come with all teams experiencing blistering on their Pirelli's. The Williams duo benefited from the turn 1 incident with both finding a route through to their approximate finishing positions. You have to feel a bit sorry for Palmer. This 11th place finish seems to have his name written on it if he can get the car home. And, I don't recall hearing Grosjean moan about his brakes on his Hass.
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Pos Driver Team
1 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes
2 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari
3 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull Racing
4 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes
5 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari
6 Romain Grosjean Haas
7 Sergio Perez Force India
8 Esteban Ocon Force India
9 Felipe Massa Williams
10 Lance Stroll Williams
11 Jolyon Palmer Renault
12 Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren
13 Nico Hulkenberg Renault
14 Pascal Wehrlein Sauber
15 Marcus Ericsson Sauber
16 Daniil Kvyat Toro Rosso
NC Carlos Sainz Toro Rosso
NC Kevin Magnussen Haas
NC Fernando Alonso McLaren
NC Max Verstappen Red Bull Racing
Watching the race, after the demolition derby in turn 1 with Kvyat barrelling into both Alonso and Verstappen, then Ricciardo and his pass on Raikkonen into turn 2, it then settled down into a tactical battle with not too many on track passes. Maybe this was a sign of things to come with all teams experiencing blistering on their Pirelli's. The Williams duo benefited from the turn 1 incident with both finding a route through to their approximate finishing positions. You have to feel a bit sorry for Palmer. This 11th place finish seems to have his name written on it if he can get the car home. And, I don't recall hearing Grosjean moan about his brakes on his Hass.
Re: The 2017 Austrian GP Thread
Very exciting finish (shame about the preceding 65 laps...).
I gave Driver of the Day to Ricciardo. Excellent defensive work against Hamilton. Bottas did a great job too on dying tyres, so could've gone either way, but I think the basic performance difference between the top two teams is smaller by far than that between Red Bull and Mercedes.
I gave Driver of the Day to Ricciardo. Excellent defensive work against Hamilton. Bottas did a great job too on dying tyres, so could've gone either way, but I think the basic performance difference between the top two teams is smaller by far than that between Red Bull and Mercedes.